Wanna get some soon

Excited. What to expect?

 

I refer you to the entire DMT forum in which you post this.

 

expect to learn nothing you don't already know

 

Don't go in with expectations, just be comfortable enough that you know its a safe compound. The only thing I reccommend and its easier said than done is make a conscious effort to try and follow it/go with it/surrender more than you would mushrooms or LSD. You're not given enough time to let it come over you and settle into the trip but it usually gives you a few seconds to get cozy so go with it.

"Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void."

 

Set aside amazement and disbelief...

 

Do you really see other entities as i have read so much about and just recently discussed with some people who have tried it?

 

Yes, you can. Just like you can see entities when you dream. It's your call whether you want to believe that they are actual real entities that exist somewhere outside your mind.

 

It's not something 'you just take and be back in 10 minutes'.
You get thrown into an other dimension where past, present and future are one.
No matter how much you read about it, you will never be prepared. Look forward to the amazing experience!

 

Interesting notion. I suppose i might as well apply that to my waking life also? As it's ultimately my call whether i want to believe or not that you or anyone else or even myself are real entities that exist outside my mind.

 

You are correct, though you would quickly find that the entities in your 5-Hydroxy-Tryptamine-powered reality have much more effect on you and everything around you than the entities in your Di-methyl-Tryptamine-powered reality. And you don't have to smoke a hallucinatory drug to see them, and they don't disappear when the effects of the drug end. Your call.

 

i am unfamiliar with 5-hydroxy-tryptamine

 

It's serotonine, a human neurotransmitter, it makes you feel happy. It also has tons of other uses.
What he means is that, reality is relative. This reality is perceived by serotonin, and the DMT world is perceived by dimethyl-triptamine. So it's just how you look at it.

 

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Ok that makes sense. It's just that each reality is of its own volition. When you're asleep and dreaming, that's what's real, when you're awake, that's what's real, and when you're tripping on DMT, that is what's real.

The only thing about waking life is that you tend to find yourself in a shared field of reality with other people who thus have to subconsciously decide what is appropriately agreed upon to be true and 'real' as opposed to hallucination because of the imagined expectations of society. So in a way it's an agreed upon hallucination.

You also have things such as hunger, pain, pleausure, etc in the waking life, but those things aren't necessarily left out of the drug or dream world by any means. But each thing is just another manifestation of the screen of consciousness.

Such as if you believe you are a separate and isolated individual entity you are going to look at the world RADICALLY different than if you are looking and perceiving the world from Oneness.

 

The difference is, if you die of starvation in a dream, you just wake up. So it's more than just deciding which reality to believe. You actually are, in a biological carbon-based survival machine. Your thoughts really do emanate from that gray matter in your very real, physical skull, which when smashed with another real physical object, will end any "realities" you may be experiencing.

If you think about it honestly and deeply, it is not a democracy of realities. You may wish it to be so, perhaps as rebellion against society, perhaps as lionization of the DMT mythos, but an honest appraisal will leave you with no doubt; Waking life and dreams/DMT etc do have significant dividing lines, are of significantly different orders.

 

agreed. I was thinking in the shower this morning D) about this. I remember you explaining about how psychedelics (especially LSD) remove filters from your brain and allow us to perceive more reality than we normally can. But after reading your perspective on dmt it seems like we are not really "perceiving" more reality we are just "imagining/dreaming" of perceiving more reality. Correct?

 

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Yes but none of us know what death even really is. So you can't just assume that "it's over" when you die. None of us have any clue. How do you know you haven't died countless times and just forgotten about them in the same way you forget about a dream when you wake up at night? How do you know that when you die you don't wake up in to a new reality? You don't know. So i think it's naive to assume that this reality is somehow more official than any other realm of experience.

They're each just realms of experience. Period. They arise, and then they fall away. Hence the nature of all manifestation. This waking one happens to be somewhat dense and with physical sensations and whatnot, and then one day it will be all over. But so what? This isn't THE reality, it's one reality within the infinite.

Yes waking life and dreams/DMT have significant dividing lines, as does anything else in the manifold universe. The universe is diverse. But each experience has its own legitimacy. It is what it is. Nothing is more or less legit of an experience than any other experience.

Whether it's a mystical experience, a psychotic experience, an orgasm, or a car accident, each thing is its own. Some experiences are dense and rigid and some are lucid and free, and that goes for waking life, drug life, dream life.

And whether it's inside or outside of my mind is also arguably irrelevant. Where do you divide the line between inner and outer? If you get drunk, and you're with a whole bunch of other people who aren't drunk, the alcohol is going to activate your brain and no one else. But your attitude and energy are going to effect everyone around you in one way or another. No matter what's going on in your mind, it's going to shape the way you look at things and thus effect the choices that you make and the way you interact with people and thus the situations that manifest for you. The point being that basically whatever is going on in the internal world is going to materialize one way or another in the external world, and vice versa. It's all really just one thing. There's no difference between inner and outer, microcosm and macrocosm, duality and non-duality, etc. It's just a matter of how many pieces you want to cut the pie into.

 

But i have a feeling that this is going to spiral into an endless debate. It all really has to do with what you define as hallucination and what you define as "real", and they're all just words and concepts at the end of the day.

You experience what you experience, and that's it.

 

Acknowledge and appreciate the DMT realms and experience but don't get fixated on it. You have 60+ more years in the flesh and most likely much of that time will be spent without DMT. Even if there is some legitimacy to the DMT realm beyond the neurological subconscious dreamspace view, my impression is that's its something vastly superior to human understanding.