2C-E Pricing

Thank you. And as far as lasting me for a while o wish. I have a much hierarchy tolerance than most people the minimum dose I take would b 45 mg. I'm at raves a whole lot so what I have left will not last me so long. I am going to follow what advise u gave me and try and make something happen.

 

Mi IPod keeps changing words on me lol it's making me look retarded!

 

45 mg of 2cP?! you do realize the normal dose for that is 6-14 mg right? i've heard about people taking ~25 mg, but if you're taking 45 mg, i can almost guarantee that your boy is cutting the stuff too.

 

Based on what I've heard from people who like to dose similarly to myself, I wouldn't even waste my time with 6-14mg. 30-45mg sounds about right though. No less than 20mg.

 

i'm sorry, man, but those doses are ridiculous.

 

That's possible. Like I said, I'm just basing it on what I've heard/read from people who like to dose 2ce the way I like to dose it. According to them, a "heavy" dose of 2cp was mild, in comparison. I've never tried 2cp though, so for all I know, those doses could thrust me into a hellish sort of psychedelic delirium for 20+ hours. lol Still, given the opportunity, I would dose no less than 20mg for my first 2cp trip.

 

honestly for me the sweet spot for 2c-p is somewhere between 14-20mg. ive taken up to 27mg and found that my prior experiences were more enjoyable and somehow more intense. my staring dose was 10mg and then i moved up by about 4mg for each occasion afterwords.

 

I signed up solely to refute this information on 2C-P for any new users that happen along, in the hopes of saving them a very horrible horrible experience.

Exactly. Extremely experienced users have their asses handed to them by 14-18 mg. Its almost exponential... a few mgs more can be like doubling the intensity.

I can't think of a single reliable friend, fellow psychonaut, report or thread that describes a heavy does of 2C-P as mild relative to 2CE. None. Please link to a reliable report if true.

I just hope visitors to this thread don't take TNS's 2C-P doses at face value, but instead go read reports on ero, bl, df and lhg to see that this chem can take 2-3 hours to set in and last 14-20 hours with extreme intensity. It's considered *almost* DOx-like.

 

Like I said, I'm basing that assessment on what I've heard/read from people who take similar 2ce doses as I do. One person, in particular, who, like me, enjoys the 50-60mg range of 2ce said his experience with 2cp was very mild and disappointing, in comparison. I'm not saying everyone should dose it like that and, like I said, I've never tried it myself, but based on the experiences of my peers, I will dose at least 10-15mg higher than erowid/pihkal suggests.


Oh.....and welcome to HF

 

Thanks!

Rereading my post now it comes across as overly anal retentive, but man oh man someone could get sledgehammered with those doses if they weren't very savvy. I guess I'm just over cautious, especially after the Blaine affair. :-/

I've been lurking awhile, but finally wanted to take the plunge... some great discussions here!

Peace

 

Nah, you didn't come off like that. You just came off as trying to prevent some bad shit from happening, which is respectable. I didn't mean to come off like I was trying to say everyone should dose high, or even that I should dose high, with 2cp. Like I said, I've never tried it, but I'm basing my assessment on what people have said about their experiences with 2cp; mainly the people who take high doses of 2ce.

I'm glad you finally decided to join. Based on your first post, I can already tell you have some knowledge to share, which is always a good thing

 

45mg that does sound crazy!

Do you plan to try P anytime soon?

 

just curious, who was this?

after my online reading about 2cp, i suppose i would take a slightly higher dose than i initially planned. i acquired 25 mg and planned to take 6, then 8 then 11. but after hearing reports about it, i might increase this to 11 then 14 mg. and really 20 mg isn't THAT crazy, especially for crazy mofos like TNS but 30-45 mg certainly seems crazy.

 

I believe I remember CS saying 2cp was a let-down, after he heard how intense it was. I don't remember what his dose was though.

But yeah.....maybe 45mg is a bit extreme. lol 20-30mg though, definitely.

 

Theres a report on erowid of someone who tripped for 3 full days off 17mg oral, so start low. Some people get really far out on 8mg oral

 

I've dosed 15 mgs 2cp rectally which should increase potency by quite a bit and I find it weaker than a heavy 2ce trip. Combining 12 mgs oral 2cp with 15 Mgs 2ci was a good combo but even then I didnt feel overwhelmed in the slightest. 2cp is a pretty weak chem imo at the 'reccommended dosages' and 20-30 mgs oral is what I'd reccommend to experienced psychonauts. I think 10-16 mgs is a good introductory dose tho.

 

have you still yet to try this one? i think you've had yours even longer than i've had mine, which is like 8 months or so

 

2cp I'm my experience lasts much longer and the visuals are much more intense. The tingling feeling u get from rc's are much stronger too witch makes it a lil uncomfortable around 12 hours other than that I like it more than every other rc I've done

 

First dose I took was 15 because I heard 16 is An od but I didn't get many visuals 25 I was nice but around 45 is where I was frilly where burning makes sence witch is what I like. No cut I just have a good tolerance for rc's

 

With the extreme variance in users' reported intensity, I can't help but wonder if it's more of a batch-based issue than individual reaction. I have never read of any other singular chemical that ranges from intense as fuck! to letdown, at many different doses by many different people. Who knows, though, with the smallish dosage, maybe peoples' scales aren't as accurate as they think they are. It could be lots of reasons. I got mine from the Walmart when they were alive so I can't imagine it to be a purity issue with them, but again, who knows. It's just weird. I still have yet to do a proper dose so I can't really give an informed opinion yet...