Who here has experience with this chemical? I've heard drastically mixed reports. If you wouldn't mind sharing your experience, it would be appreciated. I know I can go to erowid and look at TR's but I like being able to ask questions. Also, 5-MeO-AMT sounds very intriguing. Any experience with it? A vendor I used just started carrying it. Thinking about getting some.
Sorry GM, my only experience with it is receiving some, it's on my list of new experiences but has not yet happened. I suspect what SB mentioned somewhere else, that the wildly differing reports might be due to inconsistancies in batches. Dunno.
I've heard, by firsthand (but inexperienced, and dosed by others) users, that it's brutally visual and all around intense. But nothing from anyone with proper experience with psychedelics, so nothing firm. This info goes rather against guerillas, and I'd trust him MUCH more with this kind of thing.
i'm among the group that has it stashed, but yet to try it. i had high hopes for -p, as i had read that it's easier on the body but similar otherwise to -e. but the less than stellar reviews since i received it, have kept me from getting too interested in taking it. still wondering what dose i'll start with, keeping in mind i only have 25 mg to work with. somewhere between 8-11 mg i think.
I've done 2c-p a fair number of times. For me the visuals weren't nearly as intense as with 2c-e, and they are much gentler. On higher doses of 2c-e everything strongly bends and morphs in tighter circles, but with 2c-p on high doses things gently shift and morph on a wider scale and not quite as well defined. closed eye visuals are amazing on high dose 2c-p. I've also noticed it can make me more talkative or interested/curious about certain subjects, and it might help increase creativity. For me, I've done 20 mg and gone to work and hardly get any visuals at all. At 26mg+ I start getting stronger visuals, highest I've dosed is 32 mg. My brother tried 6 mg and his gf tried 8 mg and for them it was strong, with strong visuals and lots going on. So clearly everyone reacts differently, this seems to be true even more so than usual with 2c-p. I think this is why shulgin says something like "personal titration is of uttermost importance with this one." If you're generally sensitive to other 2c-x's then i'd start with 6 mg. IF you generally have a higher tolerance you could start with 10 mg, or if you're like me and have an abnormally high tolerance, maybe 15 mg. I started with 15 mg thinking it was gonna be fairly strong, and I hardly felt anything.
I too have a shitload of 2C-P in stock, but I have yet to try it. I got a whole gram (!) really cheap.
^^^ That. Thanks for your comment Hal, I'm thinking 10-12 would be a good first for me. I'm finding that I might be slightly hard-headed for the 2c's, 30 mg of E didn't feel much more than 20.
i guess i'm somewhat sensitive to 2ce (prefer 18 mg) but not so sensitive to 2cb (35-45 mg seems good)
pork don't knock 50+mg 2c-e til you try it 2c-p was PositiveVibration's favorite 2c-x i think. she said it was better at night. i will definitely be sampling it this summer
I absolutely love 2c-p. I've tried the classics (mushrooms, LSD, dmt, etc.), 2c-b, 2c-e, 2c-p, and amt. It's my favorite out of my rc experiences. I've tried many different doses (5mg's all the way up to 30mg's orally), and I've never had an overwhelming experience. They were definitely intense though. One trip I remember: my girlfriend dosed ~15mg and I did about 20mg. For the first three hours of effects, there wasn't a single word spoken, the mental characteristics are strong for a 2c, but I'm sure everyone knows that already. To wrap it up, I'd recommend this substance to anyone that has some experience tripping because you'll definitely know how to take advantage of the substance and not find yourself in an uncomfortable place because of it.
i wasn't "knocking" it. although i do not believe i will venture that high with 2ce. when i finally take it again, i might take 24.5 mg, but that's probably the highest i'll go. for me, i see no reason to go higher than that. i've taken between 16 and 20 mg and never once thought "damn, i should have taken a little bit more." i've taken doses of LSD, 2cb, 4-aco-dmt...ketamine, where i've been underwhelmed and wished i'd taken more. with all those substances i've increased my dose, or would increase my dose if i was doing it again, but with 2ce i personally don't see the need. obviously, i can't see it if i've never been there...but i'm just not comfortable pushing the dose that high with this one. what dose of 2cp do you think you might start with, writer?
seems like a good choice. i'll probably start around there as well. if you go 1st though, i might dose a little higher if you find 8 mg unimpressive
@porkstock: if youve got 25 id recommend doing like 10-12mg to try it out. that way you will have 13-15mg if you want to up the dose for a second trip.
i'll probably go with 10 mg (or 8 mg) since that's what i have accurately scaled out. and ~7 mg left in the bag. i may have lost a mg and the starting weight may not have been exactly 25 mg.
I found 2c-p to be very long lasting and a long comeup. I took it around noon and completely forgot I had taken it until the initial mental effects kicked in around 3-4 hours later, then my frined and I had a very long trip. I found the visuals very gentle compared to 2c-e, a lot more similar to a low dose of 2c-b but with a more mystical/tribal sort of feeling (as 2c-b gives me a futuristic/sci-fi feeling). What I really liked about 2c-p was the mindfuck. Nothing too profound with open eyes, but beautiful closed eye visuals and interesting headspace. A lot of great revalations and I spent longer laughing than I ever have before. After the initial mindfuck my friend came to comfort me and I realized how little i knew about anything and jsut yelled I dont know and laughed for hours..
that made me lol. Those sorts of moments seems to play out no matter what chemical I am on. Someone finally comes to the conclusion that they just don't know and have to tell everyone!
