In some cases, yes I do. Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with what Logan's saying. But he's also 41, and his posts regarding this matter DO contain some unnecessarily aggressive word choices. I understand the OP needs to realize forcing someone into sex is a wrong thing to do. But for some total stranger like Logan to say things like "I hope she dumps you" and 'She deserves a better man"... I mean, what is he doing? Trying to pick a fight with the OP?? The OP is a young fellow who needs guidance, not a reminder from those older than him that he's a bad kid. Sure, "kid" can be a pet name. It can be used in pleasant situations. I sometimes call myself kid even. But in this case, it sounded somewhat condescending to me, and I felt that wasn't necessary. That was basically why I made my last post. If you've read my other posts, you should be able to see I'm more less with most other posters on this matter.
Alright lets get some things straight here. I may have said that she isnt interesting because she is quiet, not shy, just not talkative. However i still love her to death and couldnt be happier with the relationship that we have. I was seeking some advice about how to get it in without hurting her because i was thinking about her pain and pleasure from sex, not mine. I honestly could care less. I could wait if thats the right thing. However, she is one grade level above me so mostly everyone in her grade has had sex before and maybe that is one of the reasons why she wanted to go through with it. And me, im just a horny teenager. But I respect the girl too much to try and pressure her into anything that she doesnt want to do. Ive let her know that if there is anything that you dont wanna do just tell me and we dont have to do it. We have a really good relationship and we're open and communicate about everything. Again, i was just looking for some tips/techniques/ advice about how to get it in without hurting her. So all you out there who think im a sleazy jerk who is just trying to get some pussy, think again.
Well, I didn't think you were a sleazy jerk. I however DO think a lot of us got mixed messages from your posts... But thanks for clarifying. I guess if you've read my initial reply to your original post, then you probably might remember there were a couple of things you and your girlfriend could do to improve your situation. It'll take time but, as they say, "patience is a virtue". All the best.
Thanks for the explanation . Form what you've written I would say your gf is either not really ready to have sex or she's over thinking it. She should decide when you two try next. In the mean time you can try to make her feel relaxed and comfortable. Whole body massages work wonders. Just explore her body and find out what makes her feel good. If that doesn't make her want more, than I don't know what will. Talk to her about sex in general. Ask her what she finds erotic and what makes her think oral sex is gross. Anything else I thought off has already been said (Alternative_Thinker's post). Good luck
I try to explore her body and give her massages like you said, but she is soooo ticklish that it kinda back fires. and when we talk about what she finds erotic she pretty much says "i dont know". She is the definition of a "good girl". I love it and hate it.:2thumbsup:
I met a girl once before that had been date-raped. I remember how it totally fucked her up. So Spc, when you said what you said, I was remembering her. I stand by everything I said. But if you're not doing that, then don't let it bother you. Ok?
You, know it's just real difficult at first for some girls. The first time I tried to have sex I was ready willing and wanting it to work. I was with a nice guy who cared about me and wasn't being pushy about it at all. He took the time to make me cum before he even tried to stick it in. In other words I was relaxed and wanted it bad. With all of that it still took 4 or 5 tries (literally like on different days) before he made it inside me. And then it hurt pretty bad at first and continued to hurt for quite some time like a month at least before it became something I could do without any pain. Maybe that's partly why I associate pain with love? That's something for another day. But it was something I still wanted and most girls do. Because even with the pain there's something about being so fully connected with a guy you care about. It sounds like she still wants it despite the pain. So just be patient with her and keep trying. Pussy's are made for penises, it will eventually work out.
Put a little more pressure and move more slowly. Start it like a sports massage not an erotic one. And as birsha said, be patient and it will work out .
If you have to convince someone to do something, but you convince them, without using some sort of extortion, threats, etc, it's not rape, whatever the law says.... it's just you making a selfish choice, and them making a poor choice.... But the OP is still being a douche. You say sex is the only thing you talk about, because she's not interesting... it sounds to me, like all she can get YOU to talk about is sex, because YOU'RE not the most interesting person. If she thinks oral sex is disgusting, CHANCES are, you're not the right guy, and she's not ready, either way. Not for sure, but probly.
