Should Acid Be Legalized?

That is a personal choice that many parents make. But the difference between that and how society works now is that if as a parent you give your underaged kid a few drinks they are fine and it is not going to be an overwhelming experience. Some people just are not ready at the age to fully appreciate the psychedelic experience. I know that I certainly did not appreciate certain psychedelics properly when I first did them at a younger age.

 

make it so you can only buy 200ug at a time in therapeutic sized doses of like 20-25ug each

 

You can't generate respect for powerful chemicals if you play games about them.

Drugs should be legal for those over the age of 18. Period.

That does not mean that one can use drugs as an excuse for endangering people or damaging property, etc. But if you can act accordingly, you have the right to take drugs.

 

Yes, I think shitty parents should be trusted in giving their minor children something as powerful as a psychedelic. Unless they are physically abusing their child with it and CPS could prove it. The government gives shitty parents the opportunity to legally put their children in much more harmful and dangerous situations, and rightfully so. If I want my 6 year old to shoot a fully automatic machine gun, I can give him that permission. If I want to raise my child to hate a particular race with every fiber of their being, I can do that. If I want to allow my child to take ayahuasca in a santo daime ceremony, I should be able to do that to.... Even if you claim I'm a shitty parent.
Unless there is obvious evidence of physical abuse, the government should keep out.

Yes I think parents should be able to give their minor children heroin. If I choose not to support pharmaceutical companies, and I want to make my own pain reliever than I should be able to do that, and I should be able to provide it to my children without government intervention. I can grow my own opium, I can make my own heroin, and there is more than enough information available to provide me with a safe means of doing so and dosing it appropriately for my children, or anyone else in my family.

No, children, especially young ones, do not have the cognitive ability to consent to taking a psychedelic trip. Thats why it should be up to the parents to give consent, they will be able to tell if a child is ready much before the government. Parents can make restrictions on a child to child basis, where as the government has to lump us all together and none of us are the same. Otherwise a child will decide on their own regardless of their parents wishes, or the governments.

So you think that parents should not have the ability to consent to their child's drug use because the minor may not appreciate the experience? That seems like that should be up to the parents and the minor to discuss.

 

And if you are caught with more, then what?

 

Theoretically, people should be free.

Actually, people should not be free, and we should make a dangerous underworld for the same percentage of people who would choose to take the same drugs either way.

Nah. Adults may take drugs. It is their right as human beings. There's no excuse for limiting that right, including "well we've limited it for so long we created a fucked up culture that can't handle drugs being legal". That IS the case, so it's high fucking time we FIXED it.

 

What if I can get it legally and get caught consensually giving some to someone who failed the mental complications test. The same person with mental complications who can currently consume unlimited amounts of alcohol by free will?

What happens to the person with mental complications caught buying LSD from the continued black market?

 

ok

WHAT does the 25 in lsd 25 mean ?

league for spiritual discovery
lucy in the sky with diamonds
lucifer in space with demons
lake shore drive

let me know what you think about the 25

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ill get back2u

 

I always thought that the 25 was just part of the chemistry term thingy for lsd...

 

Are you trying to say LSD means those things?

LSD means lysergic acid diethylamide.

The chemical name is D-Lysergic acid diethylamide. It was recorded by albert hoffman, it's inventor, as LSD-25 because it was the 25th compound he synthesized from lysergic acid.

 

so you dont know.
and the next poster didnt answer

and he/she/it asks if im saying things i didnt say
the answer is no
the thinhs i said is the thngs i said
not the ones i didnt

a quick google will tell you what they mean

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intersting article on lsd decomposition here -->
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66394

 

The things you said is the things you said. Great.

Now read below that, and you'll see that I answered, and rather well, I think.

I simply felt the need to clarify that despite the fact that 25 is not in any of those slang terms, the terms are codified expressions to refer to LSD, LSD is not an acronym for any of them, something which it seemed you could be confused by.

I mean, you seem confused by the english language, period.

 

WHAT does the 25 in lsd 25 mean ?

anybody ?

 

For myself, I support the idea of renewed LSD research. New lines of investigation may yield solutions and treatments for the mental illness running in the family. Complete legalization, Im not sure - but rather a renewal of the research suspended almost forty years ago. Given the advances in computer technology, chemical engineering, and psychiatry over the past decades, careful study of illicit substances may yield licit therapies.
- - However- -
LSD has effects that could be problematic for any researcher and drug company seeking to create an LSD based medication.. This presents both an ethical dilemma as well as a liability issue as well. The threat of suit may be enough to dissuade major companies from any serious investment or investigation into the chemical.

Once major pharma companies get involved, then the lobbyists, then the moral right, media, the bullshit propaganda will make it impossible to legalize this in our (at least my) lifetime.
Unforunetley all drugs have to have a medicinal value to even be considered- even weed had to go thru the medical community before it could be dispensed legally-
and look at the issues with that*

Heroin - illegal> but morphine- legal
LSD- legal untill 1966 because used in research by the medical community (and other covert agencies)
- -considered no medical value- -boom! illegal
Quaalude's- off the market - no medical value- -(but they were sure fun)
Cocaine- legal- -but very rarely used in its truest form anymore- -found anywhere except locked in a hospital cage somewhere- illegal*
some of the most dangerous/and numerous are the anti-depressants - but the medical community see$ them a$ useful- - legal- -watch late nite TV- they are pushing everything from paxil to cymbalta- $
Methadone- legal- but for addiction you have to go to a accredited clinic- for pain, go to your doctor- - ?? big double standard there-
amphetamines - legal- -speed -illegal (ok, maybe that should be)
Alcohol- legal- but dont make your own(OK wine and beer are OK)
The list goes on- -

You people get the idea--
Hopefully many yrs from now, people will be wondering why such things were even an issue

 

Nah, you dun get it: LSD was patented by a non us company (sandoz laboratories) and the patent is long expired. There's nothing exclusive, and thus, no money to make. It's very well proven to be a powerful tool for treating everything from alcoholism to headaches to a lack of creativity/aiding in problem solving skills.

And this aside, it is STILL tyrannical for other people to decide what chemicals people may take. It's fine to educate people as to prudence, but if you've ever taken LSD or ever even might take LSD, and you think that it should not be generally legal, you are a hypocrite and a horrible person in general, and I do not like you one bit.

sorry, it's harsh, and it's how it's got to be. hypocrites have supported having substances illegal for far too long. I take no prisoners on the issue, there is no middle ground. Thinking that it's okay for any country that bills itself as anything but an authoritarian fascist police state to control what happens inside people's brains is fucking NUTS. And I will call it like it is. (que orison)

 

how many you are allowed to take before you become insane

 

I thought it was how many you could take at once before dieing. If you take 26, you're a goner. 25 is cool though.

Seriously, go fuck yourself, mr. author. Don't need your shit talking about my generation, which is probably the most discerning ever, as far as the quality, variety, and purity of it's psychedelics. There's idiots, but there obviously always where, as you prove.... specifically talking about your post in the mescaline thread.

 

Hmmmm- being judged ,criticized and hated by a teen-ager. I take no offence, my son does the same thing.

For whats its worth though, Im glad your passionate about your beliefs and hope you stand tall and organise for change - its your generation that must make a difference now-
best regards,
jack

 

LSD 25 was the 25th Hoffman development with ergot fungi..

 

I do my best. I plan to do everything I can for this change.

Seriously, do you think that LSD should have legal controls placed on it? there are people who should NOT take it, but it is not the job or right of the government to limit this, all THAT does is creates a dangerous situation when none needed to exist, and steals ALL legitimacy from the government.

I can't respect LEO's who choose to uphold the tyrannical laws we have now. I once was interested in becoming a police officer. And I would still love to, if the laws could be made just. But it is not the job or right of anyone who "serves" and/or "protects" to limit what chemicals people consume.