A question about the CIA

Discussion in 'Politics' started by love-laughter, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. deleted

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    im not afraid to die.. So the cia, fbi, leo can all suck my nuts...... really.
     
  2. odon

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    A few years ago the UK was going to have ID cards.
    The ID cards were going to be backed with several different databases all connected together.
    It effectively linked multi-agency databases as one, and within a very short space of time all those databases could be checked to see if the ID cards were real, therefore you were "real".
    Now, this information was as complete as could be because you can't opt out of providing information such as the school you went to, your social security No. or your bank details etc etc etc.
    Now, you can decide to not provide these details to Facebook.
    The information stored on Facebook is fractured, incomplete and could be false.
    Imagine the man hours needed to check details individuals give on a social network.
    You would still need to do it the old fashioned way.
    With linked databases, as explained earlier, the CIA, for instance, could pretty much guarantee the information was accurate and there would be no need to double task the information.
    Ok, yes, Facebook also stores other more personal data and opinions.
    But, these details would also need to be checked.
    Why would the CIA need a court order to do one thing and not a court order to mine info on Facebook, if all they are supposedly doing is the same thing but infinitely quicker (so you say).

    I appreciate what you are saying here, if I believed the CIA were patrolling Facebook looking for people to investigate, Facebook might just be perfect. But, Fundementally I don't think they do as I have never seen any evidence anybody has ever been prosecuted with information garnered from Facebook.

    How does Facebook make money from the CIA if the CIA are running the show?
    Companies profit from Facebook information, true.
    Information you share with everybody.
    Facebook does not sell your information.
    Unless you show me otherwise I think you are unaware how Facebook actual functions.
    http://www.************/home.php#!/policy.php

    Start picking on more than 1.

    More likely the CIA are the perceived bogey-men of America as they have released certain information themselves (as above in my earlier post) that makes them look less than white.
    Please, I will not bitch and whine, I relish reading as much information as humanly possible.
    Please provide some evidence other international security services are linked to Facebook in anyway.
    Please involve them in this conspiracy of yours (and others).
    Please tell me how the CIA can have the authority to investigate me.
    Infact, rather than imply the CIA are involved, please provide some information other than they funded Facebook in a tenuous way...or "look what they have done, surely they are capable of...".
    The info you posted is used for multiple conspiracies and the people who post it rarely research what is written.
    Have you?
    A person here has shown the details are not 100% correct.

    I have never read any other information to connect the CIA to Facebook other than a modicum of financial backing.
    http://www.iqt.org/
    This company is a non-profit company.
     
  3. love-laughter

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    I just got back from hell. So give me a day or 2 to write a proper response to address your comments. My field is more "law" related and I think I'm going to do a small course on how things work and what your rights are.


    On that note,
    I just posted a news story that is waiting for approval. But it's just a relevant to this conversation, so I'll re-post it here.


     
  4. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    As a Brit, I’d like to say the CIA doesn’t apply to me BUT, I have always been iThink a sceptic.
    Be it CIA, MI5, Big Brother (the Orwell version)or watching episodes of The Prisoner (original series) I have always believed that there was an organisational observation of our society.
    IT has changed so dramatically (and that's only what we know about) that NOTHING is hidden from those that wish to know.
    They way I view it, knowing it is a test of one’s conviction of conscience and I’ve nothing to hide from myself – So whether it is/ isn’t Paranoia, those who are out to get ‘me’ or others of personal individuality can/will not have far to look. In respect of World affairs, if one country is up to something then many more are too - and I don’t think any one Nation is innocent.
    There are always more questions than there are answers, and though the truth may well be at out there, I doubt if we will ever know – at least not though conventional channels, nevertheless openness and clarity must always be sought and ever continue the crusade for truth
    :peace:
     
  5. Individual

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    Just encrypt everything not meant for public consumption.
     
  6. AK Bones

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    Regardless of facebook, love-laughter's listing of the cia history is worth paying attention to. I also would not be too quick to dismiss the cia's involvement in the assassination John Kennedy. There is a lot of information out there that puts their hand in it.
     
  7. 7he4uthor

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    1 very informative post !

    2 you have the resources to check references lode, as do all.

    3 the NSA use filters which examine key words/phraes and search for encrypted formulas ... these have the ability to filter several thousand times all the electronic data sent around the planet everyday.
    nust typing the acronym NSA will catagorize this post.

    4 it isnt facebook ... its the whole internet which is the 'web' a data-mining operation of the nsa, the spider. if you dont want to be observed dump the net/web.

    :sunny:
     
  8. lode

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    2. Yes, I have the ability to check references, and much of the information presented can be with a certain level of verisimilitude. But if one is trying to present information to someone online, especially such potentially incendiary information; they should provide reference instead of just state it from a source.

    It shows a lack of credibility on the part of the author even if almost everything he posted was true.

    3. The amount of information transmitted daily on the internet is in the billions of gigabytes. I'm sure enough supercomputer could conceivably process this, but it seems technically unfeasible. Besides the fact that they would have to either hack or have admin access to many password protected sites such as facebook, and the amount of computing power to filter all the information is unreasonable, there's not enough human intelligence employed to surf through all the millions of times a day that words like NSA are used on the internet.

    4. It seems like paranoia unless you can provide anything beyond speculation.
     
  9. Argiope aurantia

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    I read a CNN article in January that stated FB was going to make all accounts available to the US. Government for the asking, in the name of fighting terrorism. No passwords needed.

    And they monitor certain websites more than others, based on those filtered keywords. There was someone here in MO last year who had their newborn confiscated from the hospital, because they were on a bunch of Right Wing messageboards that were being monitored and someone didn't like what they were saying. They did get the baby back, but the lawsuit was rather interesting locally.

    Naturally, a story this political wouldn't be published by national newspapers, Lindsey Lohan's addictions are less likely to cause an uproar.
     
  10. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    Privacy is a huge issue. Need some help?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37wW9CGWyY"]YouTube - The Truth about Facebook!


    With that said you have no right to complain about the next time you're investigated....
     
  11. RooRshack

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    Yes, we know. The CIA is evil. Who DOESN'T know?

    It's a pretty well known fact that facebook is theirs, by the way.

    How do you think that worthless little shit, zuckerberg, REALLY betrayed everyone and launched facebook so succesfully, against all odds? I mean, this part is just my opinion, but the CIA owning facebook is fact.

    On one hand, I think the US, where it righteous, would need and should have a powerful intelligence agency. But on the other hand, with great power comes great responsibility, and the current american government very very clearly has NO legitimate claim to that power, based on the responsibility they show us time and time again. And from the start, the CIA has been totally rogue and out of control.

    And yes, the circumstances surrounding kennedy's assination do point very strongly to the CIA doing what they wanted to do from the start, and offing him, after the bay of pigs failed so miserably and the blame sat publically on the shoulders of the CIA.
     
  12. Argiope aurantia

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    Well, I was phasing myself off FB anyway, but that cinches it. Buh-bye, Facebook!
     
  13. 7he4uthor

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    :sunny:


    evil live ... backwards,
    evol love
    god dog [dog star sirius goddess]
     
  14. willedwill

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    Ras-putin: LOL.
     
  15. Argiope aurantia

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    Just deactivated my FB account, like I said I was planning on doing so anyway.

    Kind of unsure how to feel about it. I think I was hooked, as I feel guilty for leaving. Odd.
     
  16. Logan 5

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    Some of the people I know are so addicted to FB, it's pathetic. Giving details on what they're doing and how they are feeling, man. Some people need to get a life.
     
  17. RooRshack

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    Feels like: I'm updating lame social networking feewing status.
     
  18. stonk

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    There is a big difference between the cia using something to mount an operation and the cia starting something so that it can.
    Facebook is not owned by the cia the cia simply uses it like it uses radio and tv - you may as well ask did the cia really back the invention of spying, did the cia really back the invention of tv, lmao did the cia really back the invention of cameras. LOL get real puleez
    Is the cia watching everybody masturbate ? probably! but they didnt invent it just so that they could and i doubt they are backing it either
     
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