Not that I have a problem with it... I was just wondering if I wanted to for instance, take it orally (with an MAOI?) would this create a less intense, more sustained effect? Are there any other methods out there as well? I'll probably just smoke it, but depending on how much I get may investigate other means... Peace, Love & Unity, Primal :sunny:
Yup exactly as you said. But this info is to be gained everywhere. You can also inject it but this is NOT to be done if you don't know EXACTLY waht you are doing.
Nah, fuck injecting! Think I'll just try the safer methods for the time being lol, also do you know if dose varies between smoking / oral?
the freebase can be snorted for a good trip, but you'll obviously need more than the smoked dose - and it burns ALOT
Freebase? How is this different? Sorry, haven't done any chemistry in a long time lol, so is n,n,dmt a salt or freebase? Are we talking 2cx / mdma burn here? If so I may just go for the smoking route lol
I just smoked some dmt out of a bong. It was just what was left in the screens but it hit me really hard. Im still feeling it actulaly. one problem i have is if i take too big of a hit it makes it hard to breathe. Sometimes i start to hyperventilate a little which induces panicky feelings. Once i can slow down my breathing and lay down I usually am ok and can enjoy it. But vaporizing it is better
when consuming DMT orally (with MAOI off-course) you need to take more than when you smoke it. I think I'll start with about 150mg.
I have read that mixing lemon juice with N-N-DMT makes DMT-Citrate, which can be ingested orally along with an MAOI like syrian rue. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11540916 (the third post down explains it)
and are you kidding me? so many people like to shove chemicals up their noses for "a better rush" its ridiculous. you need an MAOI for your body to even react to it, just eat the shit
Smoking is according to me the more efficient way to consume DMT. I heard of people putting some in their assholes as a suppository, they said it was damn intense but I can't really tell as I never tried it, I doubt I ever will and not sure you wanna do that either. If you really wanna take it orally with MAOI, you should cleanse your body a few days before and after, also avoid some foods during that period cause chemical interaction with MAOI can make them poisonous. You should check out the list of things to avoid when having ayahuasca, that'll give you an idea.
Foods containing tyramine are the foods to supposedly avoid. The importance of having to avoid these foods before taking ayahuasca/pharmahuasca has been a bit overstated as it's not dangerous in any life threatening way if you consume foods with tyramine, but many claim that adhering to a strict diet prior to the experience helps them go deeper with the aya experience, probably due to some psychosomatic type effect . You can mix the freebase DMT with maoi rich herbs to create changa. Smoking Changa is less intense than DMT freebase ime but it lasts slightly longer as well, roughly about 8-10 minutes of actual tripping compared to the ~5 minutes or so of DMT freebase. I have tried pharmahuasca twice with minimal results. The second time I tried it, I smoked about 15 mins into the DMT 'trip' and from there on out, I got the 5 minute DMT trip which seemed intensified quite a bit from the syrian maoi extract and after that about another 45 mins of tripping which somewhat resembled 4-aco dmt. I recommend against trying pharmahuasca if this is your first batch of DMT, smoking freebase is arguably the most otherworldly and exhilarating mind bending psychedelic experience there is.
This is what I am after, but will look into an oral dose at some point, when the time is right. Thankss for the info! :sunny:
