Drugs as potent and 'clean' as LSD?

Three things I find so remarkable about LSD is one, the low dosage. Even just 20 micrograms will get you more wired, more euphoric, more creative than any amount of caffeine or cannabis you could ever smoke. Since the actually amount of chemical you must take is so tiny, this means you could microdose everyday on LSD and have less physical damage done to your body than taking tylonel daily. In really, microdosing everyday on LSD I think would actually be healthy for your body...

Then the other aspect of it is how 'clean' it feels. If you've ever had LSD that is incredibly pure, and synthesized under pure intentions, you know what I mean. The CLEAN and crispness of it is incredible. No other drug I've ever encountered comes close. It's not jittery, there really isn't a 'body load', you don't even feel your body, you forget your body is there, it doesn't even feel like a drug. It just feels like electricity smoothly running through your body. It feels like your operating this non-physical 'soul' and then this flesh just magically follows.

Then the last thing which I find remarkable is how it's energy, and it's refreshing feeling lasts for MONTHS afterwards. You don't crash on LSD like stimulants, or other drugs. On pure LSD I stay awake for 18 hours, fall asleep for 4 hours, and wake up feeling better than I've ever felt. For months following LSD I am happier, need to sleep less, wake up in the morning more filled with energy. It's like LSD just lets the energy of the universe flow through you freely, recharging your body more readily, making it so that you don't have to sleep as much, making it so your body is healthier.

I'm curious, is there any other drug which posses's these three qualities?

 

dosing everyday healthy ?
wouldnt tolerance make its effects null ?
and rewiring the brain may cause dependance ?

 

Everyday healthy, no

tolerance, yes.

dependence, perhaps in a very small number of people, but via "rewiring", you clearly have no understanding of how LSD does what it does, or even what it is that it does.

OP, taking LSD daily would NOT be good for your seratonin system, and you wouldn't feel much. I would expect after a time, you'd sink into chronic depression, as it fucked with everything. Various problems are quite possible, and you do NOT have access to well measured 20mcg doses.

I mean, I have access to 20mcg doses because the cid here sucks balls. But you don't have any way to measure it to this. Better get to finding pure LSD crystals that you can weigh and then liquid dose, or wait for legal cid, if you want to even try this.

I mean, it could be an interesting experiment, if you where willing to research, take a calculated risk, record everything, and share your findings.

 

LSD is a drug. it affects your neurotransmitters untill the drug (and sometimes its metabolites) half-life is over then it is gone from your system excreted by urine or through sweating whatever the case may be its gone, so this miracle effect months later that you speak of is not attributable of lysegic acid diethylamide but your own brain. a placebo if you will. your brain has tricked itself into believing that LSD is some miracle substance (not saying it isnt fucking good) and that it can make you healthy and do all these things for you, it is simply not LSD doing that but you. perhaps some revelation or event during the trip changed your attitude towards yourself, your life which then caused your brain to modify its own chemical release of dopamine and serotonin in everyday life which caused you to feel better but i assure you the reverse is just as possible as this. i've seen it.
my point is any effect like that is something youve created for yourself not LSD.

 

I would take issue with some of what you say, but I'm too tired.

But for the most part, spot-fuckin'-on :2thumbsup:

LSD lets you be the best you possible. But the effects don't stop when the drug leaves your body. If that was the case, psychedelics would have no theraputic use, and be purely recreational. I'd still like them, but this is FAR from the case.

Not only is dosing daily pointless, it could, as well as causing depression or other problems as I mentioned, basically simulate and possibly cause schizophrenia, a disease involving an imbalance in neurotransmitters. In order for psychedelic drug use to be healthy, you must have contrast, if you constantly felt a very subtle effect, such that you ceased to notice after a time, it could be quite bad for you.

Again though, if you think so.... find some LSD crystal, do it, and write us a report. But make sure you have friends who know about it, and can pull you out and help you if things get out of hand.

 

i say the psychedelic is merely the key to unlock the door if you will, what you do after the door is opened will depend on the person not the substance.

 

I read an erowid reports where some guy used really small doses everyday for like 2 weeks as a wake up tool and it completely fucked up his muscles.

 

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=14068

Just found the report it's a lot worse than i remembered, 1 week of use and the after effects were devastating.

 

Not for nothing, but, let's look closer. First, at the top of the page, notice his body weight? 9 kg ? Ya, I'd say lsd every day for an infant is bad any way you look at it.
L as a 'stimulant' cause your a student with a deadline, and you've got alot of insomnia? Since when does L help insomnia? How about some good ol caffeine or a real stim?
If you really had serious insomnia, and therefore a serious deficit of sleep, L would make that worse, and muscle spasms and whatnot wouldn't be surprising, to me anyhow. Not surprising "they" couldn't find anything wrong. Something vague like that, "they" rarely do. It could be a multitude of things, L probably being low on the list.
Something's fishy. That's not to endorse taking L on a daily basis. Just saying...

 

Some people are not used to using KG, in the UK most people weigh themselves in Stone. I reckon if they put 9 it was either a typo or they use stone....

I don't use KG lol.... i think i'm 63 though, i may be wrong... if 10 stone is 63 then yes.

I don't see a problem with the report myself, everytime i trip my muscles feel messed up if that doesn't happen to you then good.

 

I would question the purity of his LSD. 'Spasming' or 'Shaking' muscles is a symptom of poor grade LSD.

 

Yeah, muscle tension is one of the well known LSD side effects, that's totally reasonable sounding.

He also had depression, as I hypothesized, though it's unclear if that has any causation in his LSD use. I would think, and hope, not, after that amount of time. But it is quite plausible.

This is powerful shit. Just because it feels "clean" doesn't mean it's EVEN safe, although LSD generally is. But it doesn't mean it's a fucking energy drink on blotter.

Low dosings mean IF a compound is physically toxic to your liver or something, a single experiment is less likely to end your life. But as far as mental/physical effects on the brain, if it's active in a low dose, it's active, and thus fucking with your neurotransmitters just as much as a larger amount of a chemicals with higher dosings would.

For example, there's the NBOMe chemicals, derived from phenethylamines, but NOT phenethylamines. I don't know much about them, but for the one I've read about, 300mcg is about a perfect trip, though you could conceivably OD horribly on very little more. If the amount you're taking is active, it generally doesn't matter how physically small it may be.

 

I get this idea from Albert Hoffman who said, for years until his death, for like 30-40 some years he had a regimen of LSD taking that went something like this.

20mcg monday, 30mcg tuesday, 40mcg wednesday, 50mcg thursday, then nothing till next monday.

The dosage amounts there might be different, but essentially he microdosed like 4 days a week, increasing the dosage just ever so slightly each day to make up for tolerance. Then waited a week for tolerance to subside and started over again. He believed it only helped his health, kept his body in better shape, his mind and soul cleansed. Albert Hoffman of course would have access to, and ability to make, the purest of pure LSD you could possibly get. And given that, I find it very easy to believe that years of microdosing could be of great benefit from the few times I have had very very pure LSD. It only felt healing and beneficial to my mind and body. It felt like it had no drawback, overload or retribution. It felt like it cleared all my nadis and let the energy flow freely and unhibited through my body, healing it quicker, and letting it's vital energy be more pronounced, the kind of benefits one would get from extended deep meditation.

 

LSD has a wide range of effects in different people.

Some people seem to find themselves unable to dose (or to dose without a chemical or mental muscle relaxing technique) after a while, because it causes them so much muscle tension and pain the next day.

In some people, this might be possible. In some brain chemistries, this might be possible. But not for all, and I don't think you can really tell until you try it....

Vasoconstriction might also be a concern. I, myself, would not try this on a regular or long term basis, due to pre-existing health concerns. I already have some degree of neuropathy.

 

LSD messes with my muscles and makes me feel incredibly drained the next day due to lack of sleep.

 

it FELT like that. doesn't make it fact

 

No, muscle tension or spasms are symptoms of LSD.

I hate that "grade" shit. Yes, it's possible you ended up with minute amounts of other chemicals in it, but D-LSD is D-LSD.

"teh omgz, it's needlepoint, not fluff" Oh stfu....

 

Direct felt experience is the only thing that is real.

The health benefits I gained from having that very pure LSD were physically noticable in the prior months as well.

 

How did you know it was very pure may i ask?

 

LSD is LSD is LSD is LSD, but not every cook or chemist hits exactly on a perfectly synthesized LSD molecule, and in my experience of trying LSD from a wide range of cooks, most actually don't get a perfect molecule. The majority of street LSD floating around is not a perfectly synthesized LSD molecule. With a molecule as potent as LSD, even just a .05% deviation in the resultant composition produces noticably different effects and side-effects. And one of the things I noticed in LSD that was notably not as good was trembling and shaking. Whereas the best batch of LSD I had, there was no trembling or shaking at all. I'd also like to note that I had this batch of LSD, 3 times, about 5 months apart from each other, and each time it didn't produce trembling, and had a distinct quality to its effect. Whereas another batch I had a few times, did produce trembling and shaking each time, with a different distinct quality to it. Of course each of the trips are different in there own ways, but I do notice similiarities of effects to the same batches of LSD, from the same cook. And muscle spasm, tenseness and trembling is one of the things that I noted in only certain batches of LSD that just didn't seem as good.

This is why I say I am suspicious of the quality of the LSD the guy had. LSD is the type of drug where, a single person can produce millions of hits in a short amount of time, as I am sure you know. This means that an area could be flooded with the same batch of LSD for years... So everyone and their friends in a given area is taking 'LSD' for years, that they get from different dealers, on different paper, in liquid, whatever, making it seem like LSD is this one specific set of effects that everyone is experiencing from this same batch. But it's really all just the same batch that got distributed around, over and over. And people don't even know that there can be radical variation in effects and side-effects of LSD, from batch to batch, and dependent on the experience of the cook.