Civil war-150 years ago

I'm not going to post a bunch about it,but just to say my grandmother's side of our family fought for the south and "owned human machinery" and my grandfather's side fought for the north out of Illinois and did not. My grandmother was a little touchy about their part in owning slaves and always maintained that when they were freed,they didn't want to leave because they were treated so well. I suppose many southerners would say that-but even tho the southern part of our family came from Missouri to California around the gold-rush days(I still have 3 of the trunks that came out on covered wagons) the prejudice lingered against blacks,albeit in a benign way as far as granma went. My dad was a very racist person and helped me see that something was very wrong about racism even at the age of 5.

When I brought a black friend home when I was in the first grade my gramma said " listen ,treat negroes with respect,but don't bring any home" . I recently found some history about my ancestor,Upton Hays that said he may have and probably did ride with Quntrell's(Quantrill) raiders -- not very comfortable with that---if anyone knows his history.

Upton Hays made the Ripley's "Believe it or Not"information by supposedly being able to draw and empty his pistol before a rifleman could raise his rifle. I have an old tin-type of him and there is a spot on it right beteen his eyes that my granma said was the exact spot he was shot and killed at the battle of Lone Jack.

I have a letter from a relative in Missouri to another relative in Lemoore Cal,(where "we" settled )complaining about the jayhawkers crossing the border from Kansa and stealing food,farming equipment,killing people and so forth.

Just some stuff from my family history----the story about our family and the ill-fated Dalton gang is in the writer's forum--Pearl and the mysterious Riders---if anyone is interestd. Anyone else have some civil war history in their family????????

 

No, thank goodness. My family came here after the War. No offense, but I'm glad I can say that neither I, nor my ancestors had any part in the institution of slavery in America.

 

It's hard to believe ,let alone understand how people could rationalize slavery as anything but horribly wrong. Yet it still goes on today. Humans don't change much,it seems.

 

i don't know where my family was for world war 1.

 

I'm apparently related to Gen. Winfiled Scott. I'll have to look it up for myself one day.



Personally I do not see any resemblance.

 

30 % of southern males and 10 % of northern males died in the civil war. Sometimes 10 to 18 thousand in one battle!!

 

None of my ancestors were here until the turn of the century (or is it the turn of the last century now?)

The American Civil War is probably my favorite war to study though.

 

Some of the civil war vets were still alive when I was young and my granma who raised me was born when some of the Indian wars were still going on. 1884

 

My family sir, was born and reached maturity in the south. From North Carolina to Georgia and ten into Alabama. Southern raised in the the deep south. We learned manners, discretion, kindness to others and empathy in the south. I learned kindness and compassion, to open the door for a lady (white or black). To say yes maam, and no maam - to always allow a lady to precede a gentleman and to give her preferential treatment as simply because she deserves such treatment as a lady.
I have little experience with women in the north - but my impression is that a woman is nothing more than a man without a penis.
I love the south and find it to be a special place to live.

How may of you damn yankees can subscribe to the genteel lifestyle of the south? God help yoy you if you have been taught less.

With the freeing of the slaves (and the freeing of the southern male). How do your northerners maintain a free heart with the heart of a Yankee. God bless the south and it's kindness - and God help the north for it's coldness of heart and spirit.

 

When I worked in Florida, some of the guys referred to me as a Yankee. I guess with my background , I'm a rankee or a yebel.

 

I'm pretty sure I have ancestors on my father's side who fought for the South.
I have no clue about my mother. She's from Ohio though.

My family was never the affluent, gentry type, so documentation is sparse. Only have family stories to go on.

 

I would hope my family had slaves if they were around back then

 

My family is from the Caribbean, and they are of African descent. Almost all black people in the Caribbean were brought there as slaves, which means that my ancestors were probably owned by the white man.

So, y'know... You guys should probably give me reparations.

Just sayin'!

 

My family history involves jews, nazi's, and nazi deserters, as I understand it.

But I'm fuzzy on anything as old as the civil war. If my ancestors did own slaves, it doesn't bother me much, I'm not them or a reflection of them, and wouldn't dwell on their sins.

But I must say, lots of freed slaves stayed around, they had nowhere to go.... Other than to wander into the klan. But feel bad for the people, not guilty, you didn't do it to them.

 

Dreadlock--It's in the mail.

 

absolutely not

 

You’re right the white man should pay reparations and I ask for nothing more than my promised forty acres and a mule

As long as those 40 acres lie within either nassau county, marin county, fairfax county, or santa clara county :2thumbsup:


Hotwater

 

please do not add to his encouragement

 

My ancestors were hoping the white man would wipe themselves out, so they could get back to life in paradise....;-D

 

Mine belonged to the 52nd Alabama Partisan Rangers. Were not directly army (partisan) worked to garner suppys for confederate troops. The had no slaves, zero, zip - worked the soil to ekk out a living. I'm quite proud of them actually - laid there life on the line for their homes plus scratched a living out of the soil.