Psychedelic Obsession/Addiction/Over Emphasis in Life

These threads on shroomery pretty much outline what I'm afraid of happening to my relationship with psychedelia lol, it's not good to be obsessed with drugs!!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14311858/page/1

This sums it up too:

Apologies to go back to all this stuff after I said I never wanted to speak of it again! Just read these posts on shroomery and they have blown my oui little mind.

 

I just kinda skimmed through, my attention span isn't really cooperating at the moment. I've been there. It's easy to get over excited about something really cool and let it consume your thoughts and life. For a long while, even though I have never really tripped more frequently than twice per month, all my thoughts and free time centered around thinking about, reading about, talking about, psychedelics. I have a very fad-based personality though. I tend to get really wrapped up in one or a few particular things for X-amount of time, I would even go as far as saying temporarily obsessed, then I just naturally move away from it once the novelty wears off, however long that takes. It's good in a way, as in my life long experience it has kept me less prone to addiction (I went through a pretty intense alcohol phase a few years ago but luckily I moved away from it on my own).

If you're concerned about it, try to find a large variety of things that interest you and alternate your activities to keep it interesting. Or, be like me and get 2 jobs and work every single day, you won't have any free time for drugs any more

 

The girl is only 20 she hasn't properly matured yet of course she's gonna still have a hedonistic feeling inside her heart!

I don't know anyone personally at the age of 20 that don't live it up and get intoxicated.

 

You seem to have the impression she is immature, to me she seems mature beyond her years.

 

I don't get why she feels she NEEDS psychedelics to be happy. If they have "embedded" into her the very essence of her soul, she should be good to go? I don't know. I love psychedelics as much as the next guy and know I still have very far and deep to journey but I am pretty satisfied with everything I have seen and learned already. I wouldn't be devastated, not able to go on, if I never took another psychedelic again. Majorly disappointed, yes, but in reality I understand that LIFE is a trip in and of itself. Psychedelics should enhance life, not dictate how you live it.

She's just being silly. Why does she have to "give up" her entire self to move on with her life? My boyfriend also treats me really good and never touches drugs. That works out great - I am loved and taken care of, and I don't have to share my drugs! Sounds like she just has no idea who she really is in the first place. Also sounds like a cop out to justify having a hissy fit over her decision to stop using. She just has a bad perspective of it all. Don't be like her and you'll do fine. *shrug*

 

If a girl is fully matured at 20 years of age before being a mother then i am truly fucking amazed mate. I don't think what she wrote was immature at all i just think that is the case in life.

 

Drugs are just like possessions, they don't make who you are fundamentally and they are not essential for living. She just needs to give up a psychological addiction not herself i reckon.

 

Exactly! Some people let their belongings define who they are instead of your belongings being a product of who you are.

 

Coolbeans guys interesting points.

I don't so much identify with her that much, just thought it was an interesting example of an overemphasis on the psychedelic experience.

Thank you especially for that comment, that's pretty much it

 

My take, I don't see why she thinks the two are in opposition. One, just because she's going to be in nursing, doesnt meant she can't trip. IMO, tripping can make one much more sympathetic to the human condition, a valuable asset in that field. Maturity, who knows. None of us know her so... eh, moot. But, I'm going to have to say, perhaps, (from my perspective) she hasn't grown a whole lot from trips. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with taking up a skill like nursing, helping other human beings, and deriving a living from it. It sounds like she thinks she'd be happier just goofing off on a commune somewhere, being a flower child. That life style isn't suited to most, and its not an easy life like in the movies. So ya, like SB said, *shrug*
To your point E-Cheese... your life is your call. Not because she questions her choices... its for you to question yours. I'm not sure I've gleaned exactly what is going through your head with your self examinations, but, for this cat, I'm quite glad I'm self sufficent, playing 'the game' by being a working stiff, paying taxes, having my little house in the suburbs... I know there's a price to pay for everything, and for me personally, I feel blessed to have a roof over my head, food on the table, a few toys to play with, a few good people in my life, and best of all, reasonable health to enjoy those things. It's all about priorities...

It's not good to be obsessed with anything.

 

^^^This. It's not at all good to obsess over anything whatsoever. Cheese, seriously dude, you're beginning to obsess over obsessing over drugs; they obviously play a much heavier, more meaningful (or destructive perhaps) role in your life than you're admitting to yourself, allowing yourself to believe they do, and it appears to me that you're having a debate mostly with yourself on this forum over whether "to be or not to be" a user of psychedelic drugs.

Perhaps you should take a break for a time and experience world completely sober...and this means abstaining from alcohol as well. Gain some perspective, enjoy more music, art, culture, film, traveling. Do yourself a favor and just let this subject go for your own sake.

 

Psychedelic drugs limit you to a specific kind of freedom. They limit you to freedom in the mind. It looses its significance with abuse like anything else. The problem with LSD is that its the best kind of freedom you can have in my personal opinion and if you allow that to fade away through abuse, you would be hard pressed NOT to ask yourself these questions. Especially if you vividly recall the emotions you felt, the freedom it gave you. To know that it no longer does what it once did is enough to steer anyone away, just look at the divorce rate.

Obsession is decomposition in various stages. Relative to the person involved. If your obsessed with the freedom of psychedelic drugs or anything really, it will be quick to sway. The problem isn't the drug but the people who take advantage of it. It's not the drugs fault that human nature involves using something up until it is no longer of use...the freedom of the psychedelic drug experience is something that can be abused and relied on. Like anything else that we tend to obsess over. The true tragedy is what we throw away in that abuse.

I don't think that her being 20 years of age should take anything away from her, she's obviously 'ahead of her time'. One thing is sure, she will turn out to be a great girl. She has a head on her shoulders. That is enough to give any girl respect. Girls of her age are commonly comatose and 'dumb'. For lack of better words.

When what before brought you enormous amounts of significance and enlightenment, looses whats special or whats new, it becomes just another dusty relic in a toy box that we all must part with some day. The secret weapon that will help us find our way if the trail we travel on looses its luster, or the traveler in question looses touch with the road ahead.

 

You're fuckin 19? What a really good way to put it, and amazing insight for someone your age. A fuckin + my man.

 

Yes I'm 19. Turning 20 in a few weeks but I'm still part of the teens! I appreciate the positive rep, and glad I could give any insight at all.

 

It's all cool man. It's not that you said anything I didn't already agree with, more that it was said well, and I was floored seeing someone write with that kind of insight at your age. Totally not a put down, rather a compliment. That shows wisdom beyond your age.

:rockon:

 

this really speaks to me about my 'addiction' to cannabis. one of these days i gotta do something about that...but c'mon it's 420 tomorrow.


i don't think the nurse needs to give herself up and be a working machine. everyone has to (or SHOULD) make a living. i'm just one of the countless of examples of people in "the real world" that can trip and have a demanding career. (i tried to make that sound not snobby, but may have failed)

maybe i'm on track to be one of the PhDs that the guy from shroomery was talking about.

i admit to being kind of obsessed about psychedelics.

 

Oh hey don't get me wrong. I love pot too. I use it everyday. I rely on it, I abuse it. But pot doesn't seem to loose anything at all as far as significance in my mind goes, even when I use it more than usual. Every time I smoke its a new thing for me, and I like that. So I won't stop until its actually risking my health, and when it does that...I'll eat it.

 

awesome.

well put into perspective i tottally agree:sunny:

 

You are all right.

 

You're 19 IMO it's only a matter of time before Weed starts to have a negative effect on your health. I know of a lot of messed up Weed addicts so I know how bad this drug can be. Most people refuse any bad information about Weed I don't have a clue why, ignorance is bliss maybe.