4-AcO-DMT "Perma-fry"?

Set and setting man, you gotta know this when giving people psychedelics. You fucked that up by leading her into delusion. She asked if you loved her, you TOLD her yes, yet she is your ex? Whats the deal man? Dont you know anyhting about girls?

 

I can relate directly to this.

My friend was dosed 15mg of 4-ho-met having no drug experience at all.
Things started out with colors popping out, etc, but they quickly went downhill for her.

She started talking about how she was one with the universe (Nice huh, we've all been there ), but then started into I showed her something she wasn't meant to see. She then started talking about how she wanted to kill herself, and what's the point of living if her physical body is the only thing tying her down to this lower level of existance.

It was horrible. SWIM was on 30mg and had to deal with her talking about killing herself, freaking out. Then SWIM's girlfriend told him she was leaving him, so that was a double whammy. SWIM kept his cool.

It took a good 9 hours for her to get back to speaking. For the longest time she was silent and had this vacant expression in her eyes. I really thought she might never come back.

A lesson was learned never to give psychedelics to woman. Too many hormones floating around. And always, ALWAYS, start very small. Your dosage for her was irresponsible.

Glad to hear everything worked out, and I hope you learned from that lesson.

 

Irresponsible? How?
This was not her first experience with 4-AcO-DMT, and even if it was, I'm not in a position to tell her what she can and can not do.
The doses were measured accurately.

 

I won't even bother going into detail about the situation between her and I as a couple.

I don't understand why people continue to say that her bad experience is my fault. When you get drunk and do something stupid, do you blame it on the person who supplied the liquor? No, because you are an individual and you are responsible for your own actions. Granted, psychedelics are in a totally separate class than alcohol, this situation is no different in the sense that I was not in control of the experience whatsoever.

I respect her as an equal. I don't tell her what she can and can't do, and I don't even try to object unless it's something drastic, unlike this. The dose was accurately measured and not immense, and she is not new to the chemical.
It was simply a bad trip, at the fault of no one.

 

Dude, I don't think any of us really know enough about all the details to say its your fault. Typed words can be TOTALLY different than the actual scene. It has been said here already, set and setting. Only you two truly know. On that subject, I would be honest with yourself. Doesn't have to be shared here, but perhaps it would be good to share with her.

Your comment about the pregnancy test and no idea why they did it... probably that medical disclosure thing about if she was pregnant they'd hang her for endangering a fetus.

In the US, yes they do. It goes against my value system, we should be responsible for our own actions and not blame it on the bar, the liquor store, etc... but that's not the country (and increasingly) the world we live in. Not to say its your fault, just saying.

I don't know if I'm misreading the intention here... but... SOME people are capable of loving an ex... there are many different kinds/types of love. Just because you're not currently sleeping together doesnt mean you can't still love someone.
I'm glad she's ok... I'm glad nothing serious happened... I hope that you both learn whatever lessons you find valuable in the experience. I would say it's not wasted, unless you choose to learn nothing from it. If that's the case, I'd call it drug abuse. If you come out as better humans as a result, then I would call it a valuable life experience.

 

I still love all my ex's and i'm sure they feel the same way about me (most directly tell me anyway).

 

Nein!

It's not about whether the person has a penis or vagina, it's about whether they can mentally handle the contents of the trip you are giving them. Clearly she has/had issues with life/death or something, it is not a healthy thought to think "Wow, life is beautiful, and I am one with everything, therefore I should kill myself since my body is a prison".

My gf had never even CONSIDERED TRYING marijuana before she met me and within the space of about a month she has done pot, MDMA, aMT, LSD, and MXE, and had the time of her life on each and every one. And this is someone who has significant mental issues since she was born.

So it depends on the person, not the genitalia

 

shit dude, you got her to DO pot?!

don't you think that all that in the span of a month is a tad excessive, especially to someone new to the world of psychedelia?

 

Nope

I thought I would space it out much more, but she loves them as much as I do, can't wait to do more, can't wait to increase dose, and wants to devote some measure of her life to psychedelics in therapy. We're gonna slow it down a bit now, take a week or two off, then dive right back into some goodness. Next up is 2c-b and mushrooms!

 

Your GF is your apprentice tripper lol... sort of reminds me of my ex.

 

you mean separately right?

 

Haha I kinda feel that way about my bf and best friend. Neither of which smoked or tripped until they met me and now I am feeding them RCs they never heard of. Don't worry though. I make them do their homework then reinterate with a speech before I give them something new. I don't want nothing like the mess mentioned here to happen.

 

My ex freaked out a bit on some potent acid on her first trip, i knew she'd be fine she thought she went mental. luckily as she was coming down she realised it wasn't insanity it was LSD and managed to enjoy the end of the trip and draw me a really good psychedelic miushroom picture still tripping. completely ruined my friday night but hey it was pretty funny some of the stupid shit she was saying.

 

:sunny: You rock GM. That belongs in the "turn my friends on" thread.

 

I do these things for the most part... I educate people on what they're taking and what it will do (to the extent that I can explain). Any questions they have, I either answer or find the answer to.
I take precautions, and this still managed to happen. Especially with 4-AcO-DMT, it dominates you. You cease to be in control. Things just happen.

 

I've never lost control on any psychedelic. Not to say I haven't tripped complete balls and thought I was telepathically speaking to my dog or talking to an imaginary christmas tree in the middle of july but I've always been able to keep grasp and not just my mind and go ape shit. I've had one bad trip in my whole life and that was on wayyyy too many shrooms when I was 13. I was left alone and it was my second time tripping ever and I started to get sick to my stomach bc I had eaten just way too many fresh shrooms and I threw up. It just scared me, I started thinking a ate a wrong shroom bc me and my bro picked them ourselves and I thought I was dying. I went and told my dad I needed to go to the hosp bc I was dead. Good thing my dad is an old hippy he asked me what I was on, I told him and he laughed then talked me right out of it.

 

Your dad sounds like a bit of a legend. Must be nice to be abla do what you like in front of your parents :/

 

He was a legend. I wish he were still around. My mom is against all that though I got her to smoke weed with me a couple times granted it only b/c she has cancer now and was trying to get some relief from it and the chemo. She knows what is up on the weekends though. I straight up tell her that I will be tripping/rolling and not to bother trying to get me to do anything. I've always been straight up with my parents. I would come home high and she would ask me and I was yup. She didn't like it and I got hell for it because my sister was a bad drug addict. I'm talkin shootin coke, smack, smoking crack, ANYTHING she could get her hands on and she spent 7 years in jail because of it. So I got the 'Don't be like your sister' or 'You ARE going to be like your sister' lectures allll the time. She knows now that I am very very responsible and she trusts my drug usage.

I really do wish my dad were still around though. I would have loved to trip with him. He was killed in a car accident 7 years ago. Fucked up story that is but I'm not going to get into it.

 

Shit GM, seems like you've been/are going through alot. Obviously you seem to really have it all figured out, but I just meant to show a bit a respect for the situation. Keep your head up!

 

Yeah man that sucks, I am really sorry about your dad.
You are lucky you still have a mother who accepts you

Peace man.