One thing that brought me back to psychedelics is being sure that I could find some LSD for the end of life. I'm not sure I'd decide to take it in my final hours (especially if I become confused), but definitely want it somewhere in the process of dying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BzvC2t_LeI&feature=related"]YouTube - Huxley's LSD Death Trip
That is the way i would want to go out. Come to terms with death while under the influence of LSD would be beautiful. Personally i will make sure i have some doses on hand in the event that i might die.
Why mess with the natural trip when you die? I've seen it start days before someone would pass away. Happened with my great grandmaw and my grandmaw. You could tell they were on another level, talking and seeing angels and dead people.
It's interesting, and he is a BAMF for doing it, but you do realize that's not what people mean about dieing on lsd, right ? It's a rather stupid analogy in fact, I think.
Really? I know I've seen it here plenty, and on other forums, and even in real life. You know, all the duplicate threads about how "you HAVE to die on LSD" and "I died, and now I'm dead, and I know all the meanings of the universe" and whatnot. It's usually people describing ego restructuring, or just general psychedelic "enlightenment". I resent the use of the word death without at LEAST the word ego before it. But that's, as I said, restructuring, not death in the slightest.
What I mean by dying on LSD would be sometime in the process of my body dying. In other words, sometime between diagnosis and death - which is often around 6 months, sometimes more and sometimes less. It could be anytime in that range. All this assuming that I die from cancer (preferred over sudden death). Diagnosis/prognosis of a fatal disease usually brings some sort of radical change(s) in consciouness depending on all sorts of circumstances. (Since I have to die, sooner than later) I hope to experience the whole trip. I think it would be worthwhile to trip as soon as possible after diagnosis/prognosis - while still processing this reality. In fact, that seems like an ideal time. But not limited to that time. I'm so happy to see this photograph finally made it to my postings ... walking along that old road last week, tripping.
^^^looks pretty similar to my road, growing up. but shit, you WANT to die of cancer?! fucked up man. so did Huxley's 2 100 ug shots of LSD kill him?!?!?! she said another shot was "necessary"
Well just necessary in that 100mcg is a standard, even low, recreational dose, and in that he died over a period of many hours. I mean, if 2 hits of acid can kill you, a lot of us would be dead I don't know much about the dosage/effect differences, but I assume if oral wasen't nearly as good, we would do other things more. I think it was just IM because he was too weak to take it properly orally.
??? I guess I should expect this in the LSD forums LOL.. but in all seriousness..LSD is all about reBIRTH!
i would think that IM would be at least a little bit stronger, but you're right, probably not enough to be LETHAL. but too weak to take orally?! it'd be just as easy to squirt some liquid in his mouth as it was to stick a needle in him
@Pork: Well, we all have to die from something. Not that any of us can choose (except through suicide), but if you could choose, would you rather die from a heart attack (most likely cause of death), cancer (2nd most likely), suddenly as in a car or plane crash, sloooooowly from ALS or other neuromuscular disease, alone in a fucking nursing home, or somehow just passing on in your sleep (not likely). I worked in a hospice for several years, with never a week passing without several patients dying from cancer, etc. And have been involved in end-of-life care for many years. We really are doing a much better job managing symptoms (pain, dyspnea, nausea, etc.) of cancer. When symptoms are well-managed, then what's to fear or be concerned about? It can be a time to treasure, a time to see and mourn and rejoice in what's passed and what is to come. Re AH: no the LSD didn't kill him. He died, as far as is known, a beautiful death from natural causes. I feel strongly that we were born to be healed and that it's a good thing to prepare for death by being aware that death don't have no mercy in this land and BY LIVING AS WELL AND FULLY AS POSSIBLE. At some point some will embrace death. "but in all seriousness..LSD is all about reBIRTH!" Many Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, and others would say, exactly so: death as reBIRTH. Me, I don't know. In hospice we would sometimes talk of being midwives of the soul. :sunny: ~Nameste~
The fact that Huxley asked for it in the last stages when he was dying may indicate he knew something that we living don't. If he was seeing angels LSD may have enhanced that and eased the transition from life to death, which may be why his wife speaks of a lack of 'jolt' when he dies.
If you read the "Tibetan Book of the Dead", you'll learn what you need to face death. No need for LSD. It's the REAL THING, peeps. From what I've read it's already a very psychedelic experience, no need for enhancements. You get to experience a lot more than the ego death of LSD. I suppose if an individual had difficulty "detaching" from his ego, it might help move things along, but it will all happen "naturally" anyway. According to the Book of the Dead, you get some very intense experiences that determine your next incarnation, or release from the cycle of death and rebirth, which Buddhists seek. How you respond to those experiences are so crucial to your next life, I kinda wonder if taking LSD wouldn't fuck that part over. I'm sure Huxley and others who've done this hoped to get beyond the death and rebirth cycle, but we'll never know (in this lifetime...)
exactly. death is something you only get to experience once and like skip said, its already a psychedelic experience. I would not want to interfere with that by taking a hallucinogen. I feel sorry for people who die while dosed on ridiculous amounts of pain meds. I am sure that interferes with the whole experience of death.
I somehow doubt there is anything anyone could do to interfere with their "death experience". We also don't know whether or not it's psychedelic, it could just be like a lightbulb switching off, and your consciousness is snuffed forever. I also think given the vast range of consciousness in people, and the vast range of ways one could die, that there may be no such thing as a common "death experience", rather a highly individual end of life moment.
death is a shitty experience. most profound yet not entirely natural. or maybe the most natural thing in the world. i almost died once.i thought i was dead but i came back so i must be alive when i'm writing this? oh shit, here i go again. we're dreaming and death is just human word for unexplainable. you die when your brain shutts down, and you musn't allow that to happen 'cause if you do no Tibetan book of the dead counts, you disappear so what happens is you become aware and understand everything and you have to go otherwise you feel like the devil has got a hold of you, some kind of fucking forces coming and trying to choke you...when that happens you die, you have to have a need to survive, so your soul is stored somewhere in the higher planes and that's it...you come back anyway you want. reincarnation is one of ''trying to explain'' methods but its not that simple. it has a basis in physics, sad, but true