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And, what does your opinion have to do with me? That is pretty strong, can you prove that it doesn't?

 

Are you trying to put yourself on a knowledge pedestal because you smoke DMT? Fact of the matter is, the brain produces hallucinogens....And...

 

You cannot enter a wormhole? Says who? Who are you to say that? And who is Dmtnexus.com and what do they have to do with me? And why is Rick Strassman the say all do all in this matter? "I believe you can reach a heightened state of being with meditation but you simply cannot enter a wormhole and completely enter another world without smoking DMT." Key words, BELIEVE. I have first hand knowledge of this matter. I have ingested magic mush and have been to places you think needs dmt to get there.

 

ok dude first off, chill out. That was just my opinion like you said. I was stating the fact that dmt is not proven to be produced by your brain the way everyone believes it does and i was just trying to give a source (http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/FAQ#Is_it_true_the_pineal_gland_produces_DMT_naturally_and_is_involved_in_dreaming_and_death.3F_What_does_DMT_do_in_the_body.3F). You just said you had first hand knowledge about entering a wormhole after you ingested mushrooms, not while you were sober. Cool, I've done the same thing and no, i do not think you need DMT to take you to those places. I believe all psychedelics take you there if you dose high enough and are in the right mindset. No, I am not trying to get up on a pedestal and tell everyone how it is because I have smoked it. I am just giving my opinion based on my experience with psychedelics and simple common sense. Not trying to act high and mighty at all here. I was giving my opinion and my opinion stands. You can NOT produce DMT just by willing to do so. You don't have to get your panties all in a bunch just because I don't agree with your theory. This is a forum and if you haven't figured it out, people are going to disagree with you every once in a while.

 

What theory? Ok, and? U can disagree all u want to. Fact of the matter is ur opinions got nothing to do with me. That is what I am saying. My brain produces DMT, period, now how can u prove it doesn't? I have first hand experience. If u are using these tools to get places, that means ur levels of consciousness and will may not be strong enough to get there on ur own as u say. The first communication I had with the black sun required no external tools.

I do apologize though for making a comment about u being high and mighty, I am sorry for that. I should not make comments like that. Conversations should never get to that level if we are really trying to figure things out, solve problems or communicate in a manner condusive to enlightenment. Please forgive me... What I am sayin is that u cannot prove that what I am saying is not true nor can u say that u cannot open wormholes with or without any psychedlic is nonesense. People have done it for thousands of years with nothing but breathing and kundalini and internal production of hormones. The brain is capable of producing any and all of the chemicals u can ingest and this is why the receptor sites on cells already have the capability to accept those molecules.

Btw, since dmt is found in your body, how did it get there unless ur body prpoduced it to begin with!? Never, can't, impossible, no way are pretty strong words to use in a universe of infinite potentials? I can tell that u are not an experienced meditation because if u were u would never make such a comment.

Fact of the matter is, these substances do a similar thing meditation does, activates dormant parts of the brain through hormone and tryptophan production. Its no secret. The will can do ANYTHING, and that is what internal alchemy is all about. All of the psychedelic stuff is about internal alchemy. Do u kno much about this subject? I invite u to take this to a much more deeper discussion if u would like...

 

I dont know much about internal alchemy but I do know that LSD, Psilocybin, Mescaline, 2cb, and all the rest of the psychedelic drugs are NOT PRODUCED IN YOUR BRAIN. YOU HAVE TO INGEST THEM FOR THEM TO WORK. No, meditation does not do the same thing these substances do. Meditation may activate dormant parts of your brain but it does not physically create an LSD or Psilocybin molecule that mimics our serotonin and makes us trip for 6-10 hours. I understand where you are coming from and I'm sure you have had some amazing and enlightening experiences through meditation. But the chemical process is simply not the same thing.

 

just saw you added this in. Yea its found in our bodies in trace amounts, but do you actually think you can willingly flood your brain with DMT whenever you want? Thats like saying you can willingly shut down your heart just by meditating about it. And that's an ignorant assumption to make about me by the way considering you know nothing about me. Check your spelling.

 

R u sure? Can u prove it? Why are u speaking about something u know nothing about? U r making these statements like u can prove them, when u cannot? U may have experience in drugs, but not much in enlightenment, which is important, becuase those elements are jus to open a door, meditation keeps it open. Don't end up like alister crowley, addicted with no will and coherence.

How can u say what meditation does not do when u cannot tell me what meditation is? Can u explain to me what meditation is now, for the record? Trips are temporary, and since u have never meditated properly, I can tell ur wanting in that department. Can u please prove why meditation can't do any of these things since ur not doing it properly? Are u telling me that there is not dmt in the human body? That's a fact. Now how did it get there? Ur struggling to make points u can't prove. Please come to peace and let us find common ground without arguing...

 

haha wow man sounds like you got me really figured out. I'm tired of argueing with you man. I dont know about enlightenment? I dont know how to meditate? Where are you drawing this from? I can't prove that you cant produce a LSD molecule in your brain naturally? Are you kidding me? Your the one thats not proving anything. Can you not read my posts? I am saying there is DMT in the human body, I am explaining to you that meditation and tripping are TWO DIFFERENT CHEMICAL PROCESSES THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. This thread is for dmt experiences and im gonna stop wasting thread space. Jesus :beatdeadhorse5:

 

Excuse me, when did I argue? I merely asked questions. If u have a question, ask it. I haven't figured u out. Don't know u. I am going off of what u wrote. There is no such thing as a waste of space. But here is another: what is the chemical processes involved in meditation? Can u answer that?

 

When did I say anything about lsd? Can u prove they are different? There are differences, yes..but if u r saying they are completely different u maybe mistaken..

 

My second pro-meditative substance to encounter was oddly enough DMT (after the sweet mary-jane of course) and thus had quite an instant affinity and love towards the intensely real kaleidoscoping visions brought forth from the states it induced. The psychedelic lifestyle consumed me and I let it, because truly it is the WAY to go.

However my most intense trip to date is easily the time I was blissfully dumb enough to mix some salvia with dmt early on in my race to understand my inner workings. What followed was an overwhelming visit to the colorful landscapes of the living and dead...

First off, I would highly recommend that you have previous experience in tripping dmt and salvia on their own, and be prepared (of course) to have the ultimate experience of your life.

I loaded a large bowl of 20x salvia with some on the bottom, a fair sized amount of dmt in the middle to avoid burning it with the flame (don't remember the exact dosage; it was a fairly large one tho as I finished off all that I had at the time into this 'ride'), and then packed even more salvia on top.
I had it! The most disgusting foul and yet magical sandwich that my unworthy hands could muster. I found a spot out in the woods in a group of trees along a lake and took a long slow hit. I held it in for some decent length and then exhaled. Upon the smokes release the world around me started to pulse, shake, and then rocketed me away into the deepest dimension of self or world that I had ever entered.

Next to me, a female appeared, she was like a mother, someone that knew everything about me. My fears, my story, my personality, etc. and the same to all of those on this Earth with me. She told me through communication that combined touch with instant epiphany, that she was the creator of the planet we humans live on; referring to it as a playground to learn, to practice, to have peace and fun on in preparation for the true intertwining beauty that would come post-earthly existence. I can best describe her as Mother Nature. Somehow I had sensed that she represented and was personified from the salvia itself.
Time passed (if you could call it that).
Then another figure materialized from a golden shimmer, a noble, wise, gentle male. He was of dmt, a chemical found in every living thing. From him I learned that he was the creator of life, and also created time, the rule that keeps all of us in reasonable order. Like the female prior, this male did not appear as human but instead as some soulful essence and communicated his messages to me first with light touch that would send powerful revelations into my being.
Together they formed the world that we live on and they know and understand each and everyone of us.

When the trip ended, it felt like I had been gone in a foggy eternity, but a glance at my watch told me it was only about 7-8 minutes and that I was only talking to tree branches.

I have been an atheist my whole life. The idea that I might have seen a higher power, let alone that there may be two (they were like parents of us all; also really supports yin/yang theory with a celestial female-yin and a male-yang running the show rather than a single bearded man in the clouds) is both incredible and frightening. It also may have simply been all in my head. Another hypothesis is that they were simply beings or angels within this alternate reality who were simply passing a lame-duck human who had appeared as a visitor into their beautiful foreign lands.
I will never truly know. But its an experience so profound, that I will never forget it.

Hope that helps, Good tripping

 

Wow PinataPete, that sounds beautiful.

 

Ah, thank you kindly Bass! That was the first time I shared that strange tale to anyone. I can't imagine that things would go so well if I tried spouting about mothers and fathers from the netherworld in modern society. I would be checked into an asylum faster than one could say, "Groovy". Ha ha