Is time simply motion?

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  1. stash napt

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    Suppose time only exists when motion happens. It's interesting. Let’s discuss!
     
  2. Meliai

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    I'm sure someone with a better understanding of the physical universe is going to come in here after me and correct me, but I would say that technically this is correct. Time is a measurement that measures the moon's rotation around the earth and the earth's rotation around the sun.
     
  3. MattB

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    wherever there is no motion has no need for time or no way to measure it, so its kind of a frivolous topic. For the sake of argument tho, I'll just say that time is constant regardless of what is happening with objects or lack of objects.
     
  4. Duck

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    Don't forget the Earth's rotation on it's axis!
     
  5. MattB

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    thats how we measure it, thats not what time actually is
     
  6. stash napt

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    I might add that it is a scientific fact that outside of Earth’s gravity time moves at a different rate. It is most interesting.
     
  7. Meliai

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    well, time is a measurement. It is not actually something tangible and real.
     
  8. stash napt

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    "space-time"
     
  9. MattB

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    motion affects time, but that is not to say that there is no time where there is no motion.
     
  10. lunarverse

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    Time = motion does not explain circadian rhythms. No motion, yet the body recognizes that time has passed.
     
  11. stash napt

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    But the body is always in motion?
     
  12. Meliai

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    circadian rhythms are subject to physical forces that weigh on us all the time....gravity, the earth's motion through space..

    I'm just hypothesizing. I really have no idea what I'm talking about and should probably duck out of this thread before I make an ass of myself.

    :leaving:
     
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    time....a construct of the human mind. developed for improved celestial navigation of the oceans. does nature observe 'time'? does nature observe 'man'? does nature 'observe'? why does nature have motion at all? is this motion 'organic', or does it indicate consciousness apart from man's concept of time? is the universe rushing to work...late again...about to be fired from it's job as janitor for some larger universe who has all the money?

    http://secretlivesofobjects.blogspot.com/2010/04/more-than-just-pretty-tick-tock-clock.html

    why does man care where 'he' is? does he think that nature cares? does nature...the universe...whatever 'is'...care where it is? if we were meant to have clocks, wouldn't nature have issued us one? why were not satisfied with a sundial, and the motion of the sun? now we have casio, timex, bulova, elgin....and the space shuttle using the denver atomic clock...and we are constantly in motion...does this mean that toffler was correct...time logarithmicly has increased in velocity by our senseless, unceasing motion...dashing about, going nowhere but from birth to grave? does time die when our motion ceases?

    i must find my compass, my sextant & my tally rope and go on a voyage of discovery!
     
  14. lunarverse

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    Not always. The military as well as scientists for decades have put people in isolation rooms for days at a time. No light, sometimes no darkness, no window, no stimulation whatsoever, no concept of time. Yet most every time the person will retain a relatively normal sleep cycle (sleep when it is actually night outside even though the isolated individual has no idea whaat it's like outside), will become hungry at the same times, etc.

    That could be. It could be that an isolated individual sleeps during the night because it has something to do with the sun being at a further distance from the body. We know for a fact that the moon certainly affects people. The human male body is about 60% water, the female body is 55%. The moon affects the tide, it affects humans in some form (lunar-lunacy).
     
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    Our lungs breath, our heart beats, our blood flows.
    Even in death, our bodies decompose slowly over time.
     
  16. lunarverse

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    Good point.

    Cells have a predetermined life span. How does a cell "know" that time has passed?
     
  17. stash napt

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    Eaxctly! We are always in motion.
     
  18. MattB

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    Time is more than a measurement. I could not have any knowledge of the sun or moon or clocks and recognize that time is passing and will continue to pass. things happened before that I cannot change and things will happen that I don't know about yet.

    If there is no motion in a particular spot, you cannot measure time, this is true because whatever is measuring it is in motion. But time goes on outside of that zone, that cannot be argued. And whatever you put into this zone will allow you to be able to measure time. So it is safe to infer that the time exists there, we simply have no way to get a value of it
     
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    I don't know much about cells, so I may not be qualified to speak about this; but batteries have a predetermined lifespan, do they know how much time has passed?
     
  20. stash napt

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    Perhaps it is not the conscious recognition of motion that creates time but the act of motion itself. Perhaps time is a universal tool for motion to traverse reality.
     
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