Dosage for 2C-e

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by vis334, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    first tip...don't have 1 post and ask for tips
     
  2. evilreign

    evilreign Member

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    Never snort a 2c-x. I've done it probably 15-20 times and now even the smell of a 2c-x makes me sick to my stomach. Seriously, snorting 35mg of 2c-e in one line was the most painful experience ever, plus the trip is just no where as good as when taken orally.

    The highest dose of 2c-e I've done was about 40 mg, and that was finally when I had true visuals, but granted I also took 25 mg of 2c-i at the same time. Everybody is different though, and it really depends how much of a trip head you are. I remember the first trip I ever took was on 15mg of 2c-i and it was so magical. Now 15mg of 2c-i might give me a buzz. Some people are also just more sensitive/ less sensitive to 2c-xs. I have a friend that gets floored by shrooms, but has supposedly never tripped off of a 2c-x before. I believe this has more to do with him not understanding that mushrooms are a way different trip, but even still he seems to have a very high natural tolerance.

    I really don't want to take a higher dose than I've already taken or even the same dose as 2c-e at high doses makes my head feel likes it being ripped apart and not in a good way.

    I much prefer 2c-p for the better headspace it provides. IMO it's a much better psychedelic for introspection than 2c-e. It's visuals however never reach the level of 2c-e which turns off many people to it, that and the long duration.
     
  3. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    very interesting points.

    the first probably just solidified my decision not to dose 2ce above 25 mg, for fear that the headache will get worse.

    the 2nd has re-piqued my inerest in 2cp. visuals are nice, but i like the introspection that 2ce gives me - seemed to do more when i was new to it though. maybe i'll really like 2cp after all. what is your favorite dose of 2cp. how about for oral 2ce?
     
  4. evilreign

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    My favorite dose of 2cp is anywhere between 10-15 mg. I find it to be very introspective for me because the trip is much cleaner and allows me to just lay back and think. 2cp wont force any sort of realizations on you like LSD or Shrooms but if you are the contemplative sort, then 2cp is great for introspection, but to be effective the user has to seek introspection. I believe somebody on this forum described 2cp as a psychedelic wasteland, and that actually is quite accurate, if there is no input from the user. Think deep thoughts on 2cp and it will reward you but it will never force itself on you, if you understand what I mean.

    I can't say that 2c-e has ever been beneficial to me. I like tripping and I have alot of 2c-e so it scratches the itch, but in my extensive experience with it I've found it to be an empty experience. It can be fun, but it will never change my life in a meaningful way. That's just my personal opinion though, and I know many would disagree.

    Orally 2c-e is nice in the 20-25 mg range. Any higher and the trip is just uncomfortable, and not in a holy shit im tripping balls uncomfortable, but more like a my head feels like it's being turned inside out and im still not really tripping very hard.

    I think the most interesting experience I had with 2c-e was when I dosed the 40 mg with 25 mg of 2c-i; it was below freezing outside and I walked out onto my balcony and could not feel the temperature. I could feel my body going numb, but the ability to feel the cold was nonexistent. This happened to my friend also who was on the same dose, except he didn't notice his body going numb. Lucky that I did because he suggested taking a walk, and I believe that if I had taken that walk and been outside for a long period of time I would have had frostbite.
     
  5. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    This post, I like. :) I don't have the negative experience you and PS do with E, the worst I've had is mild nausea, which I no longer have since discovering dosing with strong ginger ale.
    I like what you said about P... I've yet to try mine but I have a G sitting around taunting me. Thanks for your post!
     
  6. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i get what you're saying about 2cp. if you're around, i'll let you know how it goes when i finally get around to trying it.

    2ce has been quite introspective for me, personally, but i think i'm in the minority there.

    so did your head hurt from 40 mg + 2ci?

    i LOVE going outside in the winter on 2ce. that's when i did my first 2ce trip and most subsequent ones were in winter. just gotta bundle up man, i don't think frostbite is too big of a worry until sub zero temps and/or high winds. i frolicked around on 2ce when it's been much below freezing..for hours. DRESS WELL.
     
  7. vis334

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    One more question regarding 2Ce...what is the duration on a 20mg dose? again, male 175lbs. thanks!
     
  8. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    around 6-8 hours
     
  9. vis334

    vis334 Member

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    wow, much like LSD. i will need to take a day off from work to do this...:)

    Is there much of a hangover effect?
     
  10. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    ^^for me it's significant. even if i dose around 3 or 4 PM, i'm up well past midnight, with difficulty sleeping - not just like with LSD, i am more uncomfortable when trying to sleep after 2ce. it gives me headache the next day, and gut issues on the comedown. still, i really like to trip on it, the trip is great, and the negatives aren't THAT bad
     
  11. Coinman

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    Nobody that I know has any trouble with stomach issues if taken on an empty stomach. If you can't eat during the trip, duck on hard candy to avoid the sugar crash during the come down.
     
  12. Mr.Writer

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    I have IBS and have taken 2c-e up to 60mg. Your friends are Cannabis, Ginger, and Dimenhydrinate. A can of ginger ale and a joint/bowl and you wont have any issues.
     
  13. Hallucinations

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    I have found that the best way to avoid nausea is as follows: Wake up early and once you're hungry eat breakfast. Wait 2-3 hours for the food to settle, dissolve the 2ce in some water, drink it over about half hour while eating lots of fresh ginger at the same time. If you have had food that day but not too recently, and you have given your time to wake up, and you eat ginger and/or some of the other stuff Mr. Writer mentioned and you should be fine. yesterday I did 45 mg 2ce with 40 mg 2ci in this fassion and I had almost no nausea the whole time, just a tiny bit briefly.
     
  14. Lane61190

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    I'm impressed.

    I don't know how you dudes take it to that limit. I'm a 40 mg max on just about anything.. even by itself!
     
  15. Hallucinations

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    The 2ce 2ci combo was pretty cool, but when it was coming on I seemed to have this weird sort of irritability. I think the 2ci adds a component of more "trippyness" to the trip in the type of visuals, though I dont seem to really get visuals from it unless I dose high. The visuals I got were not super strong, though I did seem to get a sense of energy and got a little more talkative. I did get some bendy morphy visuals and trails and stuff, but nothing profound. I also seemed to interpret sounds weirdly so I wasn't sure if I was having mild audio hallucinations or not. I finished taking it at about 1 pm and I had a hard time going to sleep at 2 am the next morning, ended up taking a sleeping pill at 3 so I could sleep. If I do the combo again I would probably do 60 mg 2ce with maybe an equal amount of 2ci or less. I did notice sometimes it was harder to keep a coherent thought process going though, which I didn't like, and I think the 2ci might have been a big factor in that. ALso the visuals from the 2ci seem to die down a lot faster than the ones from the 2ce (though I couldn't really notice much addition as far as visuals from the 2ci, since 2ce seems to be way more visual at the same level). So maybe since 2ce is more potent than 2ci I should actually dose higher on the 2ci then 2ce if I combine them again.
     
  16. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    your 2c-e is most definitely cut if 20mg gives you a "weak" trip.
     
  17. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    so what's the point in combining 2ci with 2ce then? you seemed to have just gave all these reasons why 2ci isn't as good as -e, so why not just take ~80 mg 2ce, instead of 40 mg each?

    THAT DOSE IN INSANELY HIGH for anyone reading that may not know better

    i wouldn't say that. i personally trip hard from 17-20 mg 2ce, but quite a few people on here prefer much larger doses.
     
  18. evilreign

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    When mixed with another 2c-x, 2c-i always greatly increases the strength of the trip.

    Oh and 2c-e is definately not a 6-8 hour trip unless you snort it. Orally it's 8-12.
     
  19. Hallucinations

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    Yeah you're probably right pork, but I have gotten definite visuals from 2c-i when i took 72 mg (granted it was also with 100 mg 2cc but I've done 100 mg 2cc alone and with the 72 mg 2ci I def. had visuals that I don't get with 2cc alone), even though I drank it over half hour and vomited a couple minutes after I finished drinking it since I hadn't prepared my stomach correctly, so really I absorbed less than that. However dosing 72 mg 2ci and 60 mg 2ce would be a really strong mind fuck to get really good visuals. Next time I'll probably just try 2ce at 70 mg.
     
  20. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i know i've said it many times, but i can't imagine taking doses like that! i mean i've never tried 2ci or 2cc, but i suspect my doses would be something like 25-35 mg for -i and 40-60 mg -c
     

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