The following was written completely by her, except for the few parts in [brackets]: I drank the powder [20 mg] mixed with juice around 5:50. It really didn’t taste bad and I drank it quickly. Then I went into high gear making sure my apartment was as “pleasing” and “soothing” as possible. Did the dishes, straightened up, cleaned the bathroom etc. Due to my nerves and neurotic thoughts I found it necessary to try and create an environment that would be best suited for happiness. I must say the nausea set in sort of quickly. I felt like I had a stomach bug. I felt syrupy in my throat and like I had to spit a lot. I drank some ginger soda and I think the high amount of sugar just made things worse. At this time my lover was out of the shower and we decided we’d go outside. It was a beautiful evening, still light out of course but sort of nippy. We headed to the park. The colors were of course vivid and bright and sounds were amplified. This had the potential to be an extraordinary experience - birds were singing, squirrels running, buds blooming. But because of the overwhelming nausea I was having teamed with the anxiety of seeing “people” I couldn’t concentrate on the good. Each foot crackle, baby giggle and dog bark of the fellow park goers sent me into major paranoia. What did I look like to them? At one point we sat on a bench and looked up a hill sprinkled with trees, flowers and bushes. The sky was a powder blue with milky wisps of drifting clouds. I was with my love and he was so kind to me, so concerned with my physical and mental state, I loved that moment with him. We passed a tree whose thin boughs loomed downward as if bowing. Beneath the branches a round robin sat alone singing loudly with reckless abandon; unconcerned that we were merely a foot away from him. He sang so loudly and with such determination and pride. I will never forget it. At one point we walked through a pathway with no floral elements, just varying shades of deep green. It seemed dark, isolated and frightening to me. The overwhelming scent of pine upset me. Soon we made our way back to the apartment and I was relieved. I immediately tore out of my jeans and put my “comfy” clothes on. I didn’t feel so sick anymore and made my way to the bed in which the first of the back and leg tremors started. It was a pleasurable but strange experience that I kept trying to pin point and isolate. He was lying around with me too, putting on music and getting into comfy clothes. He was laughing so much. I don’t know if it was because I was funny or he felt funny or was thinking funny things. Things got sort of silly at this point. I put a blanket over my head and looked at the light between the threads of fabric, then when I would peep my head out the whole room would flicker. My body felt so weird, sort of buzzing and electric. I loved to touch him and snuggle close. I remember at one point rubbing my foot on his head and his hair was so, so soft that it made me jump up to find the cat so I could touch his soft fur too. Well getting up so quickly was an experience because now everything around me was hitting me. Things flickered, buzzed and colors burst. In the kitchen the blue of the cat’s food mat and the blue dish towel were so bright. The cat was soft, but not kind. He did not want love and scratched us. He looked at me deep in the eyes and I thought he was judging me. Drinking water and eating a cheese stick were totally normal. Not like other times [on LSD] when my body would repel any substance in my mouth. We thought we would move into the living room and play our new game. But there were so many pieces and plastic baggies that we gave it up pretty quickly. Now we were set on two separate couches and sort of got in our own worlds for a bit. I stared outside and it was practically night at this point, he had lit candles and they as well as the lights from outside gave the same equivalently magical glow that made me feel like I was in a Christmas village. He was happy to have his eyes closed and listen to music. I felt I could separate all parts of the music isolating the musical/instrumental elements, the tone and melody of the man’s voice AND the specific lyrics of whatever the song was. The music was good of course but I couldn’t hear a song that really moved me. When I would close my eyes I saw pictures, I saw lighting several times. I saw pictures that I wish I could translate into tangible artwork that I could see again. But I never can, the pictures are just lost inside me. I didn’t know what to do. I didn’t want to just lay around but I guess that’s what I did because it felt so right. I didn’t know what to concentrate on. It didn’t last too long, I was able to go to bed easily and feel pretty fine today, not like a big black empty hole like I’ve felt other times [like after LSD]. Overall a great time because I was with my love and wanted to make him happy. I would never do this alone, I would never do a higher dose. We had several talks about the “purpose” of doing these types of things. How yes it “enlightens” you makes you stop and reflect on some things that the rhythm of our every day busy lives doesn’t always let you do. But if it takes this to appreciate a robin singing or a bud blooming I am not living my life the way I’d like to be. We had many talks. I don’t feel these things will “teach” me something I don’t already know or won’t figure out eventually. It is not a treatment, a solution or a doorway to something unknown. It is an experience, plain and simple. Make what you want of it, learn what you will. Please don’t tell me I cannot make such claims until I’ve done more of something. If you believe nothing else, believe in the free will of the individual. Peace be with you - inside and out…
she said she forgot to mention the trails she thought she was on acid a few times last night. she was like "this is acid. did you give me acid?" she said that it was pretty much just like acid, except stronger (she's "only" taken single hits of L). but towards the end she noted some of the differences, such as the presence of nausea and chills on 2cb - and while it made you feel sick initially, it had better "good body feelings" than LSD (in her experience), and she could eat and drink on this stuff, in contrast to LSD, which makes her feel more "alien" and out of control of her body. something that caught my interest was the fact that she noticed the "psychedelic tremors" that so many people on here talk about, but i've had very little experience with. i'm glad that it doesn't make her feel like an empty dark hole like LSD does the morning after.
Good report porkstock's fiancé. I like the descriptions you use to explain some of the aesthetically pleasing visual elements of 2cb, although I find it interesting you got some paranoia. My mind tends to feel accelerated and set adrift in whimisical and novel thoughts with 2cb usually, which prevents paranoid thinking for me but occassionally I get the 'I dont know what to do' feeling on it and I enjoy eating on 2cb as well. That's unfortunate it made you nauseous but I'm glad you had an enjoyable experience overall and I enjoyed reading your trip report.
Really nice summary there Ms PS. :sunny: A few things you wrote resonated... My first time with 2Ce, while coming up I watched 2 doves on a wire, in the sunset. They were alone and right next to each other, cuddling, rubbing together and preening each others feathers. The sun made their chests glow warm red... it was the most amazingly private and beautiful thing I ever saw in wildlife, I think. YES ! Much as I thought the day after. I try to keep that in my thinking since then, tho it's not easy for me to practice on a daily basis. Something I'm working on... Last night was probably the most amazing musical time I've ever had, at times anyway. Was listening to goa/trance stuff, the complexity blew me away. I too could "feel" all the components seperately, in a much stronger way than ever. I still can't describe it with words. It was like a 20 story building, each level a different beat, tone, melody, chant... that all came together like the most intricate 3-d puzzle. Sorry about the nausea part, that is a bummer distraction. IF, you try a 2c again try the Reeds when you down it. Last night was my highest amount ever and even a slightly sour stomach when I dosed... by the time I was feeling the come up I didnt feel a bit uncomfortable in the stomach the whole time. Peace to the two of you as well... :sunny:
Nice report - the yin and yang and transitions back and forth with such ease. Somebody loves you Porkstock.
thanks for the responses guys. her and i both agree that your description of the two doves sounds very pretty. i personally had a decent amount of synesthesia for the brief amount of time i closed my eyes and listened to music. i was getting very colorful, but 'thin' visuals, ontop of a back background. it would start off as a small shape, like a star, that would grow larger outlines of itself that would change and glimmer different colors. the CEVs seemed to grow to take up the empty space between notes in the music. i think she mentioned that the sugar in the reeds just seemed to upset her stomach more. more kinda bad news, she has been feeling a bit down today...the "dark pit" just like the days after LSD. i told her it's just a chemical reaction in the brain and it will get better each day until it's not noticeable. she's not letting it bother her too much, but it's sad to see her..sad. she's kind of easily upset, and emotionally sensitive to bad weather - today's not such a nice day. i don't think her brain is matched very well to tripping, so i'm cool if she never does it again. but if she wants to give it a go every year or few years, then that's cool too i'm excited to see what my brother thinks of this chemical. i think i might start him out with 20 mg as well, maybe 22.5 (already scaled out, but i'd need to weigh out myself a dose...cuz i don't think i'm gonna dose 50 mg (the only other amount that is weighed) maybe SOME day, but for now ~30 mg seems to be plenty. i said in another thread that the trip last night was every bit as strong as 44 mg, and i even smoked less ganja throughout the trip. i'm sure it's partially due to set and setting, but i personally don't think the higher dose is worth the increase in negative effects. 30 mg was smooth as can be for me, whereas 44 and even 36 mg gave me quite a headache.
Cool report. I don't know about the 2c-b body buzz, though. The acid one is actually one of the best parts of LSD for me, 2c-b was more can't stop smiling, good vibes, more similar to MDMA with mild visuals(and a hell of a stomach ache at first)
seems like he was trying to say that he gets a better body buzz from LSD than 2cb. LSD does make my body feel quite good, but i think 2cb and 2ce make it feel even better (after making me feel kinda sick at least in the case of 2ce). for my bro, i may just stick with LSD if i can get more - since he had a great time on it last summer and didn't report any negative effects other than being a bit worn out / sore backed at the end of the night. no since risking that 2cb might make him feel crappy like it did my girl..when i know LSD works like a charm for his preference. of course i'll ask him if he's interested in 2cb for "novelty's" sake, but really i might feel better just keeping him away from RCs.
^Yah from what I interpreted from what Roorshack was saying, I agree with him the 2cb body high is often closer to MDMA but I have pratically the reverse in experience where LSD is usually more of a smiles and good vibes feeling as where the other two usually have more pronounced body highs.
i would lean more towards what you say as well. but everyone has their preference, and i'm sure it's partly based on dose of each substance as well as set and setting. 2cb gives me a more pronounced body buzz that is more pleasurable LSD still gives me a great body high though LSD probably gets me smiling and laughing more, although i was laughing like crazy on 2cb the other night. and i'm pretty sure i get more "good vibes" on LSD. my brother actually noticed a lot of bad vibes at that music festival on L. he said it was like he could "see all the evil around" him. that got me a bit worried, so he further explained that it was like he could see evil over "there" and would know "oh, don't wanna go over there, gotta go over HERE" and it was guiding him along the right path. i learned a lot from giving my little bro some LSD
^^^^me too it was a toss up between that or mescaline. i didn't have mescaline doses scaled out though, and when i said, or maybe she read, that it can last 8-12 hours, she was a bit turned off from that one. i said 2cb really only lasted like 4 hours for me, and made my body feel like what i thought ecstasy would. she didn't think 2cb would be such a full on trip i guess. but i think she's done tripping now. she did get kinda depressed the next day. and had a stomach ache / diarrhea even 2 days later. i feel kinda bad for giving her an RC without unknown negative effects. i'm sure once can't be very bad at least long term.
Very nice report! Tell your fiance i enjoyed reading it! I hope she is feeling better..from the sickness and depression like you said. Good vibes to you both!!
Sounds like a great time! Shame about the after effects! Some people just don't respond very well to those sort of things though, at least she had an open mind about it Think I'm gonna smash back 17mg 2ci this afternoon for shits and giggles :sunny:
Sounds like it hit you hard I find 2c-b is very acid-like as well, I even call it "Diet-LSD". While I've had only fun light-hearted experiences on it for the most part, I have read many reports and been told of experiences that shake the foundation of people's minds on the bee.