Pretty much everything I have read about DMT is that it is amazing, mind blowing, an incredible experience, spiritual etc etc, I would love to try it, experiment a few times, and find out what all the fuss is about. :sunny: I'm just wondering what people's negative experiences during / after have been, if any? I was reading up on an ayahuasca forum (something else I would love to try) - and came across this blog http://truthinyourlife.wordpress.com/... The guy goes on about being sent to hell, and it all being a trick from satan - some pretty deluded shit if you ask me (not that I have been there), and then goes on about worshipping false idols (ie the plant, which to my understanding is a tool, not an entity )... I want to give both synth DMT and Ayahuasca a go at some point, just not if it turns me into a religious loony tune!
No. Religious fundamentalist nut whacko creepies love showing up at ayahuasca doors and then spend time braying about the devil and satan worshipping and what not. Same old same old. Mindless people who need ALOT of attention...DMT would be the cure, not the cause...
You will be pretty mindfucked for a couple of days, but after a while you will give it all a place and you will see that you appreciate the things you took for granted. As if you died and got a second chance to live. I have done DMT about 7 times with 2 breakthroughs included, not a single bad experience yet. I did become pretty mindfucked (as in thinking that the world and even the whole universe was me. thinking that my conscience is just placed in a random body and whilst everyone acts like everything is normal, if you look from an other point of view (as in an observer outside the social bounderies of men) you will freak out and everything starts to feel alien) for about a week.
I would say I've smoked dmt like 70 times, and only had one "bad" experience. But that was when I smoked while sick with the flu. Usually the worst thing that happens is an underwhelming trip. I'd say for me though dmt has been 95% FUCKING AMAZING, much more reliable than any other psychedelic I know of.
Nothing terribly negative, my lungs have felt beat up once or twice afterwards and I get more anxious going back to it now but every trip with it has been pretty amazing and it continues to impress me.
I have had a few bad trips on DMT, mostly because they were sub-breakthrough experiences, it can be difficult to transition into DMT space.
I've had HORRIBLE DMT experiences, LOL. It was ALL ME, every single time. DMT is a WICKED MIRROR! I'd say my hit rate is about 90-92% good to awesome to mystical experiences. Used to be 95-98, he he. So, that leaves 8-10 out of every 100 as a time dilated hell trip that shows me the ugliest things about my self, my society and our consensual reality. DMT makes me cry as hard as the death of loved ones has (just not as long, LOL). Last bad trip, I cried so hard for so long, I broke my computer mouse (embedded into this laptop), LOL - the tears were HUGE. DMT to me is NOT a recreational or a pleasure drug. It is so HARD to do, LOL. Even more than the other psychedelics, there are no guarantees, and even if I am perfect about prep, set, setting, ritual, etc, I can still get bitch slapped. DMT to me is a tool, the ultimate CATALYST. Catalyst to self growth and insight, . . . if and when I can take it. It allows me to do the deep and difficult work. There are times when I've felt I was crazy to attempt this without a professional therapist by my side. Want to avoid bad DMT trips, here's some advice: 1.) Never do DMT. 2.) Do heavy work on preparation, meditation, set, setting and ritualizing your dosing. 3.) When you are in hyperspace, if there is any "I" intact, try to surrender, let it all go, don't judge, don't label. Why should an ugly entity attack be judged as "scary?" Just observe and surrender. Try to return nothing but love. Find yourself strapped to a table being vivesected by weird aliens? Let go, surrender, tell them they are free to examine you and that you love them. You are an ambassador. Be diplomatic, LOL. It may help with fear. If you come out of an experience feeling it was rough, try to just breath and wait to baseline. Listen to pleasant music, stroke a pet. Re-assess at that point in time. You will probably feel a lot better. DMT does (especially with breakthroughs) turn some folks into religious looney-toons, especially over the short term. If it could happen to this jaded 41 year old atheist then it can happen to anyone. Most folks I know, tend to calm down and/or settle back into their old beliefs after 6-18 mos. Otherwise, I'd say that was in them all along and NEEDED to come out. DMT is a big MIRROR. In terms of ayahuasca - yes, yes, yes! But, I recommend working only with the Vine (force) first and not the Leaf (light). Take a large number of Vine (banisteriopsis caapi) doses, then later do both. Be careful though, once your MAO is inhibited, you can find yourself in a full blown DMT trip or even breakthrough for HOURS if you high dose the Light (psyhotria viridis or chaliponga). Pharma and aya "bad" trips can be epic.
Once you have taken it there is no going back. I tried to stop the trip before the breakthrough because I could feel the weirdness I was about to enter. Next thing I know I am stumbling around my house, with no recollection of who I was, and utterly ganstunkganfutz about was going around me. I was walking back and forth through time, and in about ten dimensions, going wat the fuck, wat the fuck, but not even knowing what a wat the fuck is. If you go for it, like spicey said, total surrender!
Thanks for the answers and advice everyone! Sorry it has taken a while to reply, I tried yesterday, but was so destroyed from the night before that I passed out mid-post (go me! lol) So basically what I understand is that you need to 'go for broke' when you smoke it? Thanks for an in depth answer! I will try and respond as best I can 1. I have already decided I want to give it a go... I am pretty good at handling altered states, and have been fascinated with it for a good while now. I have a fair amount of experience with other psychedelics as well... 2. It will be at home, where I feel safe, with good friends and attention to lighting / decoration etc... I have started meditating, but am by no means proficient yet (is it worth waiting?)... I won't take it unless I am in the 'right' state of mind either - much like I would with my buddy Cid... 3. I'll try my best to 'surrender' - not sure how I would react if I am being attacked by aliens lol, but at least I have some fore warning of what *could* happen... Is "6-18 mos" - 6-18 months? seems like a long old time, not that I have any fixed beliefs - they are something that develops as you live and learn IMHO... As for Aya, I'm not too sure where to get the bits? I'm pretty sure they are all illegal in the good old U of k... There is some Changa doing to rounds at the moment, is that worth a bash? I'm used to that 'no turning back' feeling... LOL, sounds like you had quite a confusing time though!
