Who the hell cares about bloody AV anyway!!!!!

Not I, for sure.

I don't vote.

If you do vote, who the fuck has a 2nd or 3rd candidate they would choose? Who even likes their 1st choice that much?

The whole thing is a complete and utter basket of eggs.

If you are hardened tory supporter you aren't going to tick any of the other major parties as your second choice, and you probably don't want the monster raving loony party getting in either, so you're not going to care or even bother are you.

So what's the frigging point then?

There is none. It's s cop out. It wont change anything. It'll be just another load of money spent on creating a more complicated system than it need be, and it probably wont even work properly.

Why would I want to vote for a government that yields more power than it's supposed to.

NO 2 AV AND NO 2 V!!!!

 

I did vote in the recent General Election - I didn't vote for anyone as such, I was voting against these tory/lib dem dickheads coz it's fucking frightening what they're doing. The last time I voted before that was that election with John Smith, shortly before he died (92? 93?).

Anyway, this AV looks like bollocks to me.

 

It's a really good idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtW3QkX8Xa0"]YouTube - Dan Snow's Alternative

 

Can't watch that until the 6th, when my new internets allowance kicks in. Guess I wont be voting then as I just can't decide.

 

I thought about voting yes for a bit. The whole system is so fucked up and corrupt it seemed like a chance to actually do something about changing it. And then I changed my mind!

 

I take your point CloudOfGanja ( ) but I voted yes to AV as I believe it will lead to
more representative, less polarised election results where you don't have labour or the tories
with a third of the vote sitting on 150+ majorities and doing just what the hell they like
for five years while we all grind our teeth and tear our hair out in rage and frustration

 

Whatever the choice I think that one should always vote - I feel that it allows (a degree of) conviction of conscience
and the right to vote should never be taken for granted - for if a decision to take it away is made would we not all unite in armed revolt? -
Oh just me then?
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None of the candidates for the city council in our ward - there were 4 of them - could be bothered even to send round leaflets - not a single one. No canvassers at the door. No public meetings. No contact with the people they want to represent - nothing.

Do I want to vote for anyone exhibiting that level of apathy ?

No. So I didn't. The conclusion I drew was that none of them were worth my vote, so I witheld it.

I did get a leaflet from the Labour candidate in the next door ward, who I couldn't vote for if i wanted to.


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Apathy is alive and well here too. We had four candidates, three Labour and one Tory. We did have leaflets from Labour but nothing from the Tory, only a leaflet about AV.

This is a totally rubbish council, doesn't matter who has control, but we thought the AV vote to be important, so we voted yes.

 

You know, I dont think we even got an AV leaflet...



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Didn't vote for either of them, as I don't care for either method...

 

I didn't get a ballot paper either for it. I didn't want one. Looks like it is heading for a majority NO LOL what a waste of time and money the whole exercise has been. Why don't think just give us proportional representation...

And the lib dems didn't do too well either, predictably.

And with a landslide victory for the SNP in scotland looks like independence for Scotland from english rule could happen in a as little as 3 years.

 

Yeah, but then you'll be an oil-rich state, and as such a target for US intervention. Before you know it Obama will be authorising a hit-squad to take out Alex Salmond.




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We will defeat them using the drone of our bag pipes!

 

Lib dems calling for Clegg to step down, Vince Cable attacks the tory party and calls them "ruthless, calculating and very tribal"... yes Vince, they fucked your party over good and proper, and everyone else. that's what they do, they are the tories...

You should have stood your ground and demanded PR or another election.... but oh no you were all hungry for power...

AV my fucking ass, what a joke of a compromise that was.

I can see the beginning of the end of this joke of a government, let's hope it is not too long before Scotland decides to wash it's hand of english rule once and for all as well.

Not that I will really care that much, since none of them want to deal the with issue of drugs in a sensible way. None of them talked about drugs in their manifestos, they just brush over it, because taking sensible action on drugs is a vote loser.

Glad I haven't voted for a good ten years now, and i never will.

 

The local Lib Dem leader on our council was calling Clegg names in yesterdays evening paper... they got wiped out locally, and he's obviously in no doubt where the blame lies.

I mentioned previously the apparrant lack of interest among candidates in our ward, none of them bothering to even send round the usual leaflets. The turn-out was correspondingly low - 35% or just over a third of those who could have voted.

Across the city, turn-outs varied from 29% to 46%. Which means no-one who got elected was done so by more than half of their potential electorate. Some may represent as little as 25% of them. Maybe even less.

These counellors get pay and expenses. Maybe these should be linked to the turn-out. The lower the percentage, the less money you get.

That, and sadly probably only that, should encourage them to get off their arses and get out to attempt to motivate the electorate.



Incidentally, the Labour candidate in the next-door ward who did send me a leaflet got elected with a large majority. See - it pays to advertise.


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what is so bad about this government? people hate them, and it seems relatively moot - it's never on policy, and more on just who they are.

i think they are doing a good job, considering the circumstances.

and av, to relate the the topic, would have only meant more coalitions - it is a bad idea, we need cohesiveness with government.

 

Drugs policy for starters, spending more money on invading and bombing foreign countries instead of spending it on health and education. More nanny state laws, more taxes, tax breaks and financial incentives to buy a new car for motorists.

Pretty much the same as the previous bunch of right wing lunatics.

I really can't believe you are standing up for this government. RU SRS?

 

me. It might have made it easier for the lIberals to get in again in the future and legalise weed. I've given up on the other parties doing it.

 

But it's who they are that shapes their policies.

And basically who they are - or at least, who they think they are - is a class destined to rule as a birthright.

We're effetively being ruled - I'm not sure if governed is the right term - by a load of Old Etonians. What kind of policies did we think they were likely to implement ?


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