Some info for anyone who smokes 'spices'

or cannabinoids, or what have you. Anyways, I was with my friend and he had this new kind called "Mad Hatter', so we smoked it obviously. But anyways, I swear that shit is mixed with salvia. The taste is faintly there, and if you smoke half a bowl to a bowl of it, I honestly felt like I was tripping. But it wasn't that intense trip salvia hits you with, but rather a longer one but less extreme. I've smoked salvia many o times, and I felt like I could recognize it..

So to anyone out there who smokes this stuff, I highly suggest trying out Mad Hatter. I'm guessing they even named it that because you trip, and the Mad Hatter and whatnot.

Anyways, dueces!

 

Change your signature and maybe i'll believe you.

 

lol will do.

 

Cannabinoids are psychedelics and dissociatives and they WILL make you trip, if you smoke enough. That doesn't mean there's salvia mixed in.

OP isn't "info". It's an idiotic theory based on misconception and ignorance.

 

lol at the second paragraph, up until then I thought you were trying to dissuade people from trying it.

 

yeha.. is 420 lets smoke some mothballs and advil..

 

My probation officer thinks that's an excellent idea.:sunny:

 

There's tryptamines that sometimes end up in these things.

Probably just a mixture or a lot of powerful cannabiniods.

Also, OP sucks.

 

Psh, I suck? Screw you guys, I didn't know they could actually make you "trip" if you smoked enough. You can't blame me for trying to be helpful.

But anyways, sorry about posting this in marijuana, I thought synthetic drugs might be the right spot but I wasn't sure

 

i agree, change your sig! dolphins suck anyways (bills fan here)

ROORSHACK, what tryptamines? 5-meo-dalt one of them?

i doubt that salvia is mixed in, especially since you said the high isn't really like salvia and lasts longer

 

So I've heard. I don't know much about it. I know one of our members was going to have some custom mixed for him, and the guy mixing it offered at least one tryptamine as a standard option.

I don't think this stuff was mixed with salvia or salvinorin, because salvinorin is, by definition, short acting and of short duration, when smoked or vaporized.

Just saying, there's lots of "trippy" things, including cannabiniods and other compounds.

 

i tried someone's homemade spice off of ebay and i did hallucinate

 

I get what the OP is talking about.
I tried spice for the first time last week (K3) and my first thought regarding the flavour was that there was a distinct salvia undertone to it. After the exhales, it also almost felt like a very very very very mild linear skew to my body that I've only ever felt from salvia. This effect only lasted a very short time before the rest of the buzz took over.

Not saying that it is salvia. Perhaps it's just whatever chemical binding to a receptor that's similar. I dunno. It's just what I've experience.

 

I prefer to smoke a blend with Damiana, but another popular choice is marshmallow leaf or mullein as...you can also do half and half or whatever you prefer.... That is where you get most of the flavor from along with if your using a blunt or flavored papers

 

During a period of probation I was smoking this exact garbage for several months. I would like to warn those that find this shit (and I mean SHIT) appealing. For your first purchase of Hatter, you will be getting extremely high, fairly giggly, and one's depth perception (I guess this is the 'trip') gets very 'pop-up book like' or rather 'bug-eyed'

After this first bag though, something wears thin in your mind and you will never reach the enjoyable high that you had before. From that point on, the only highs you'll be getting are short-lived, tiring, reminiscent of shoddy resin, and the occasional attack of extreme paranoia; and the paranoia is a huge bitch to overcome, particularly in public.

I used to smoke this garbage on breaks while working at Wal-Mart (fuck not going into that place high) and the results of this experiment was me acting like a perma-tard behind the cashier counter as I did my best with the other-worldliness/disassociation that the drug filled my vision with. Try it if you must

 

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I have a feeling these two will be new Top dogs of the Cannabinoid RC crowd

 

Black hat:

Who fucking cares?

You read like someone trying to legally establish that people take these and their toxicological effects look like scheduled drugs or something. Yeah, stupid people consume stupid things, some people drink rubbing alcohol too. It mimics the effects of ethanol, only with more danger. Doesn't mean it's an "analog" and illegal to sell to under 21's, because we all know only idiots would use it that way.

Again, who even cares? These are totally uninteresting as drugs, the only reason anybody makes or consumes them is because of the american war on drugs. They have no particular value, and many downsides. Theoretically, they're neat because they're unrelated to cannabinoids but bind to the same receptors. But as far as TAKING them, why the fuck would you do that?

 

Its not salvia for sure this shit is something wild, I just really cant beleive that no one else on this forum has posted about it, this stuff is def a strange tryptamine or something along those lines and its not an accidental mix in the spice is absolutely coated with crystals in the package and I can't find a damn thing about it on google........................