DMT has lost its power...?

First of all I know how to properly dose and vaporize. There's no issue there. I'm not on any meds or doing anything that would obviously effect my baseline serotonin levels, etc....

Basically I'm just not getting visuals anymore. The bright, colorful, high resolution 3d closed eye visuals that make dmt awesome don't come to me at all. If I see ANY visuals whatsoever they're very dim and brown and I have to strain to see them. I'll take my 3 huge hits, feeling like I'm about to launch I'll lie back and wait, and nothing really comes on. The body trip is still there, so it still feels like I'm tripping, but there's almost nothing going on visually/mentally. This has been the case for my last 5 or 6 attempts. It's pretty strange.

This dmt has not been stored at optimum conditions (my house is always kinda hot, the upstairs closet where I keep it averages out at 80 degrees) so if not for the fact that I still experience the strong body trips I would say that it had probably lost potency. But I don't think so, I think it's probably me...

I've smoked dmt over 100 times now, but I've never heard of any kind of long term tolerance. And I hardly ever smoke more than once or twice a week. Is it possible for people to gradually lose their ability to trip altogether? Or is it more likely weakened crystals? Help?

 

Maybe it's broken

 

Very helpful, thanks man.

 

No on a more serious note, I think it's not a gain of tolerance. If you have smoked it over hundreds of times, you should have noticed it way earlier. I think it can be one of 2 things:
1. Your DMT is unstable at the temperatures upstairs and may have changed into an other compound (very unlikely, though).
2. You just did not took enough. You say how to properly dose and vaporize; and I believe you since you said you took it over 100 times. I usually put enough DMT in my pipe for 5-10 breakthroughs and just keep the leftovers in there for next time, but still after 3 good tokes one may still not breakthrough(nor see visuals).
My advice is to take things slowly when you are about to inhale. Don't treat it as a thing you did 100 times before and it will succeed every time. Respect the drug. Don't go into a mindset of just taking it and trip hard. Don't wait for it to happen / show up. Take a few breaths before you inhale, and remember why you are doing this. Fully clear your lungs and take slow big tokes, wait 10 seconds, exhale and immediately take another one. Also put a little bit more DMT in your vaporizing device than usual(I always do, and it only takes me 1 toke to breakthrough).
When you wait for some thing to happen, it almost never will. Go into a relaxed mindset and don't care about what it will do to you.

Sorry alot of this will be very obvious to you but this is the best advice I can give you. Good luck!

 

i think your DMT probably degraded..

 

DMT can degrade pretty rapidly if not stored properly, like in your case. My friend once had a gram of tan powder DMT, stored it improperly for a week or two in the summer, and when he checked on it it had turned into an orange goo. Granted it was still just as potent, it had only oxidized, but yours may have degraded far beyond that point I suppose, too bad. 80 is way too hot to be storing psychedelics man, that's going to degrade *anything*

 

I disagree. Logic would dictate the problem is the dmt, however, dmt melting point is above 80, it's vaporization even higher. If dmt were so sensitive to heat you couldn't vaporize it usefully.

 

This is true. Someone one the nexus confirmed that storing dmt at 80-85 degree temperatures for a long period of time does not affect its potency. And I always put more than enough in the pipe. Sadly I think the problem is me... I'm going to take a break from freebasing for awhile. Maybe soon will try ayahuasca to see if there's any improvement in trip quality. Thanks to all for the advice.

 

DMT is kinda like the prostate gland .. its a pain in the ass to get it right, but after that. It works forever..

 

DMT in pure crystal form(freebase) will not degrade in those temperatures. However, in solution it will degrade very fast, considering this is not the case and excluding the variables of vaporizing and inhalation, the problem would be you yes.

 

Got it, upstairs closet.

Let's move, boys. Kill any junkies you encounter, they're likely armed, won't pose a problem in court.

 

Ha you narcs are too late, already flushed everything I had

 

im sort of having the same problem. but i have only smoked DMT about 8 times! I had one amazing breakthrough, but every other time it has been kinda bland or boring, defiantly nothing like the breakthrough i had. and i have been doing the same amount, if not more.\

Did we learn what we needed to learn from it? just like how LSD and MDMA loose their magic if you abuse them for years. What is wrong with us?!??!

 

I'm convinced it will work again at some point. I'm laying off for awhile and at some point in the future I'll be approaching it from a better mindset. Also I remembered I drank some ayahuasca a week ago and since then my head has felt funny in that lysergic fuzzy psychedelic way, I'm thinking that probably has something to do with my problem.

For you, being that you're less experienced with it, I would guess the problem is most likely just your smoking technique.

 

I've taken it around 100 times as well. You're dealing with (IMO) the most serious substance known to man. Like a schizo or a shaman (can be the same too, ha) I give all the psychedelics a personality, not a voice in the head, but a personality of its methods and lessons from its teachings (For me, LSD is the only one that lacks this established teacher). But when we over-indulge in these forces, I feel the effects may simmer or even stop, to save our souls from going into a state of depersonalization.

A shaman healer that does a monthly cleansing upon my Qigong group, was telling me about his fellow shamans of S. America that travel through the cosmos at least 3 times a week on their Ayahuasca brew. They come back down from their heavy trips and go to work as a butcher or teacher, and maintain both a grounded and a 'heavenly' based lifestyle. Maybe you just need to find some of this grounding, and come back to us (at least a bit, ha) here on Earth.

All together, I feel you're subconscious is protecting your being from incredibly shocking insights, and the effects have worn off until a full proper break is given. I don't know how long you've been dosing DMT, but the teachings it provides can't simply just be forgotten and can overwhelm all parts of the self.

Happy trails, and enjoy the good herb for awhile to distract you from the psychedelic temptations

 

i dont understand why it would be my technique, im using the same technique everytime with almost the same dosages

 

Thanks for your helpful post, Pete! I am taking a freebase dmt hiatus for now

pbjube I would advise taking a break as well or trying new techniques, I am almost certain that no one gets shut out of the dmtspace forever.

 

I have tried smoking twice since this point with similar results. No visuals whatsoever, complete blackness, but it still feels like I'm tripping physically. Very strange and disturbing. Does anyone have any scientific advice? Low Serotonin or something? But I wouldn't try smoking in the first place if I didn't feel emotionally normal...

 

I'm not sure I can give a hardcore textbook definition and I'm not sure one exists for smoked DMT.

Maybe you got some 5 meo dmt :sultan: No but seriously maybe you have developed a diminishing returns type thing, try loading like 25-30 mgs more of DMT than you normally smoke and see if that works. Also just because you 'feel normal' doesn't necessarily mean your neurochemistry is normal. I'm pretty sure I talked about this in a previous DMT thread, your brain does not operate to make you feel like there is something wrong with you, it wants you to feel 'normal' so you can function in your day to day tasks.

In regards to MDMA:

 

right but with mdma most people do experience diminishing returns whereas it's not a commonly reported phenomenon with dmt. in fact seems like some people successfully smoke multiple times a day for months or more. There's supposed to be no long term tolerance. And I've already tried increasing the dose.

I dunno seems like there's a good neurological reason I went from having consistently amazing dmt experiences to having consistent boring trips with no visuals. I definitely don't feel off but you're right, it's certainly possible.