Fancy a stretch in the Miami mega-jail?

neeeeeeeewwwwww thanks....

Louis Theroux has written an article about his experience there when he recently visited it. Sounds horrendous! It's the like fucking Bangkok Hilton by all accounts..

It's on BBC tonight at 9pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13457576

I once went to Florida. Didn't smoke any weed while I was there, but what if I had and I'd got caught, is THAT where they would have put me????

And that sketch on the article.. did he forget to draw a wall between the last bunkbeds and the toilets or does some poor bastard have to sleep right next to the toilet with 24 guys using them all day!!!

 

The Bitch Suite.

 

almost every jail cell in north america has the toilet open so that inmates shit while all your buddies watch....the trick is to wait till you are about to explode and then do a ''sit,shit,split''...flush the toilet quick[courtesy]...i am sure that the term ''blumpkin'' was invented in an american jail cell

 

And what happens if everyone plays that tactic, and three guys all have to go at once? :ack2:

 

the toughest guy gets to poop and the weakest guy gets to wipe

 

No, he didn't forget the wall. I would bet you anything.

In the US that's how it's done. They intentionally set up violent overcrowded cells, with a racial majority and a few of another race mixed in, with lots of known, tattooed, obvious gang members in each one. Common overcrowding in american penal institutions involves having more than twice as many people as beds per cell.... they're not just being lazy, they're trying to create "dats MY bitch" situations, with rape, murder, and brutality each and every day. And if something happens to you because they put you in there, nothing happens to them. They don't give you your meds, you die on the floor. They don't break up a fight, you get your head stomped flat on the floor.

In my opinion, penal institutions should be DIRECTLY liable, with the guards and overseers facing criminal charges for things that happen under their noses. Ie. if you get killed in jail, the killer, AND the guard, AND the guard's supervisor, AND the jail's superintendent or sheriff should all be charged with murder, and the jail employees should get automatic first degree, because they work in that situation, if something happens it should be assumed that they allowed it to happen, they're security professionals and it's their job to be able to handle that stuff.

But that's just me, advocating freedom and justice.... won't happen, ehh....


It's an intentional tool to keep people turned against each other. In places like LA, jail is used to keep racial, inter-gang, and other, tensions high, so that they have a steady influx of people, they don't stay released for long because the scrap continues on the outside. It's meant to happen, and it's meant to scare the living shit out of you (and it works, at least for a lot of us, me included)

And when things happen to people in jail, even totally unconvicted people picked up for drugs, nobody cares, they've propagated this sick idea among the american public that people are in jail because they deserve it, and that they don't deserve any sympathy. After all, YOU won't forget to pay a parking ticket and get murdered for it........... WILL you? (this is where you cower and pay your tickets, and invite the department of homeland security to put a camera in your bedroom)

*edit* lol at the picture.... is "the shocker" really a miami gang sign? or are they fucking with the british?

*edit2* yeah, finished the whole thing..... and lol at the officer who says the building design is the problem. Cameras are a dime a dozen now, they choose where to put them, it's not an issue. And they chose to build it that way, just as they would with a new building. It's just convienient to blame the building built by the american prison-industrial complex, while paying them to build more just like it.

I'm pretty confident that with or without the use of cameras, I could build a secure jail, even one with 24 inmates to a cell, that would be easy to guard/patrol, easy to have quick access to any part of, etc. But no, the guards would rather watch you fight for your bed.

 

Are we mixing "Jail" up with "Prison" because i've been to jail and its nothing like prison.

 

Many times they are.

My state has "state jail felonies", a class of crime that should NOT be a felony, it's a sneaky way to make things like drug possession or graffiti a felony when it shouldn't be, but make it sound like you're JUST going to jail.

And we lock up convicts in county jails for less severe periods of time here.

It's the same culture, same people, same guards, the only difference is that a jail is run by yokel sheriff's departments with less oversight.

 

It's jail. All the inmates are innocent and awaiting trial. They can be in there for years and many actively try to stay in as long as possible on the presumption that it might help them get a not guilty verdict.

 

Pennsylvania State prisons are all sissified.. County jails, well that Im not to sure of.. Most idiots get it out their systems in the county jails of PA. The State prisons are lovely... some the prisons pride on their culinary and cleanliness.

 

Well shit, all us criminals should move to penn:afro:

The penal system seriously pisses me off, especially in my state.

The system is responsible for violent gangs, which carry over to the street. It's like making work for themselves.

For example, the aryan brotherhood, a brutal, ruthless group of meth and heroin dealers, formed because prison guards allowed and encouraged race violence, and whites being a minority and "whitey" and all, would get put in violent black cells and killed, for pissing off guards or whatever. So they said fuck this, we'll build something for our mutual protection, not to mention our mutual meth dealing and expanding to a violent cartel on the outside.

Guards not doing their job are 100% responsible for the aryan brotherhood, and while other gangs form on the street, their influence grows dramatically when they take over a prison, then they have the automatic membership of anyone they want who doesn't want to die and accepts them for protection.

It's like the mechanic who replaces your oil filter and stabs your power steering cylinder.

 

Ooh, rugor's a piggie.... he doesn't seem to like my opinion, and not a part of it, his -rep says "that most was horrible"..... Why, you don't like me badmouthing your place of employment? Which parts are horrible or otherwise?

There are few who have been in a jail other than the jailers who could have much respect for how they're run, in most places.

If the state is going to lock you up, they need to insure your safety while locked up. No question to it. Pre or post trial, doesn't matter. If you will be confined against your will, it must be done to the letter of the law, or the institution and the law it is enforcing loses ALL credibility, and becomes simply an institution of tyranny. To pull an example from the argument, if you're driving without a license, and get arrested and put in jail until your appearance, THAT is your punishment, getting beaten to a pulp and requiring medical attention, and risking death, is NOT "just what happens", or "something you should have though about before doing that".

 

^Spot on that, sir.^

 

this post is horrible. sorry. but you made up all this stuff in your imagination.

i have been to jail and know several people in both prison and jail. jail and prison is nothing like that at all.

all the gangs are separated in different housing units. you also get questioned and based on your answers they put with cell mates that you would most likely get along with.

there are also levels in prison.

all the violent offenders are in different housing units than the people that did lesser crimes.

the prison workers try their best to keep violence to a minimum. I do not know what makes you think they encourage it.

you are saying the guards should be held responsible for violent attacks?????? that is ridiculous. that is like saying teachers should be held responsible if some kid brings a gun to school and shoots people.

when I was in jail the first day I was there some crazy dude started causing trouble and in about 18 seconds he had 5 guards guys laying on him.

I agree though about over crowding. it is a problem. either build more jails or we need more tent city jails like arizona. but usually it is only drug offenders and people who do not pay tickets that get released early though.

jail is a punishment. it is not supposed to be chill or fun. but at the same time american jails are nothing like south american or mexican jails.

here is some of what you said "They're not just being lazy, they're trying to create "dats MY bitch" situations, with rape, murder, and brutality each and every day"

sorry but that kind of stuff does not happen everyday in jail. inmates laugh when people come into jail all scared thinking it is like that. if they notice you are scared and do not know what jail is like they will try to fuck with you.

going to jail is all your personality and confidence.

when I went to jail I was fine. i made friends talked to people and did my time. it is just crappy because it is boring.

it is like school. there are chill people at school and bullies at school. same thing in jail. if you do not understand the jail culture and you go there and the people there do not like you then you might have problems everyday. just like the kid that gets bullied at school hates going to school everday.


the people who usually get stabbed and raped are child molestors and convicted rapist. now possibly maybe the guards set up for the child rapist to get fucked up by the gangs. but when you said in your post about a guy in jail for drugs or parking tickets getting fucked up I just laughed. unless you piss someone off with disrespect or something you will be fine.

if you mind your own business then most inmates care less about you and will leave you sitting in the corner.

the highest rape percentage in jail is in texas and arkansas. 5% of inmates have reported sexual assault. so it does happens but not like it happens all the time. and sexual assault does not always mean full on rape.


jail here america is so nice compared to mexico and south america. now that is where everyday is chaos.

 

^ great post ..

 

So why is the US penal system condemned by Amnesty International then?

Methinks someone's chatting shit.

 

yo links fuck up homes

 

if you not like the usa then move somewhere else. I think people complain to much and are not thankful for what they have. the usa is a lot nicer than a lot of other countries.

I did not even know it was condemnded. perhaps because of the overcrowding.

gosh dang. are people expecting jail to be exactly like being locked in a hotel room? I agree with jail. society needs jails because some people should not belong in the normal population. it is simple. obey the law of this country or get the heck out of here.

here is a video about portland oregon jail. in usa you get treatment and medications for both mental illness and drug abuse. be happy that jails spend money on criminals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InEWaMb8G7k"]YouTube - ‪Lockdown - County Jail (3/5)‬‏

 

Amnesty International has no involvement with USA Dept of corrections, Maybe they speak out about it, but they have no say really in anything here at all..