For the past few years theres been mixes of pipe pills and real mdma pills out there, but for the past few months it seems like mdma in pills is just gone. Completely replaced by pipes or other research chemicals. I think it is realy dissapointing that people are marketing pipes as ecstasy, which is supposed to be mdma.
Solution: If someone tells you a drug is something it's not, get friends, and without hurting anyone, take said dealer to the middle of town, before taking their drugs, money, phone, and clothes.
If only it was that easy. But in all serious, does anyone have any idea's what the heck is going on? Have there been any major busts recently that have closed down a large supplyer or something?
Read microgram, you're a LEO, so you even have access to the proper full colour/illustration one, the one that is legally available to all of us but not actually available.
Your going to have prove yourself a little, until then some people are gonna think so. There is still good MDMA out there if you know the proper people.
Well I guess that is true. Unfortunately my only source has seemed to be getting on the pipe train lately. I live in the northeast and if anyone else lives in the northeast they know that pills have gone to shit in the last couple of months. It's a sad situation and really killing the scene.
The scene has been shit for years. in 05 everything went to methbombs then eventually into pipes. I don't see any hope for recovery. There are some good pills that float through from Chitown, Houston, and rarely Cali but they are bout up fast. Best bet of yours is to leave the X scene alone.
Actually I wish I lived on the west coast. They actually seem to get pretty good stuff a lot more consistently than anywhere else I've seen.
Yeah, I noticed this in my rolling days back in 08, 09... Leave the xtc scene, look into molly.. pure mdma.. If you live in NYC, or around CT, there are some really bad pills, and realllly horrible dealers selling these shit pills. Dont get me wrong most pills have mdma, but are LOADED with straight meth or piperzine..
I haven't heard of any legit pills for a few months in the northeast. Piperazines are the worst and thats all it seems pressers want to make now. Not sure how anyone actually can like that stuff.
Those who are pressing e pills most likely do not eat their own pills, they are in it for the $$$. I have no idea about how much piperazine costs, but it is probably a very cheap substitute for mdma, and they can get away with selling them b/c pipes do mimic some effects of mdma. It is a shame that xtc pill quality has gone down throughout the years because it is "fun" (lol) to eat a mystery pill and expect a good time haha... But leave the pressed pill scene and look into molly, its a lot less shady..
There was a positive report of G's up pills on the East Coast recently. BZP, the most popular piperazine, has been illegal in much of Europe for a little while now, so possibly pills made in Canada would still have it but over the next few years, I would imagine that piperazine pills would be greatly diminshed. I don't know if there are any other pipes commonly available or how easy it is to synth though. New stimulants keep hitting the rc market though so something will probably replace pipes.
MDPV, mephedrone, methylone, for starters.... They'll dry up as supplies run out since the UK busted that up. There's a list of stims from like 1900 to present that are still legal, and it's always growing.... they only get legally attacked when they get big, after the last one was outlawed.
Truth i'd much rather have a mephedrone or methylone cut than bzp though. I think MDMA cut with methylone rolls would be pretty bomb actually.
^^^ me too but I think as long as I can still get molly imma stay away from pills even if they were half decent just to be sure I kno what I'm getting.
I don't even really like to fuck around with the rolls around here anymore. I've gotten too many straight methbombs. I don't know how anyone would ever want to do that vile stuff on porpoise. There were some dank, DANNNNNK red/purplish-gray ones going through Eastern Ohio and PA. Combo of molly, sass, b12 and 5-HTP. Omnomnom.
if people would just stop buying the rcs and pipe pills it would eventually stop..but the majority of the people dont care wut they ingest as long as they get fucked up.. They are ruining it for us people who enjoy mdma over anything.. I hate pipes and i wish it would stop but i dont think its gonna anytime soon..especially with the easy access to lots of various trippy chems . Just find a molly hook and enjoy it while u have it! I think soon all pills are gonna be pipes _ rcs and 'ecstacy' will have taken on a totally different and horrible turn for the worse when it happens.
I stopped buying pills all together around 08, they are all crap it seems like. I have finally gotten my hands on some really good molly after wading through some that was stepped on. I have been getting it from Atlanta.
If I was a drug dealer and could get away with selling bogus pills, well...I probably wouldn't, but some people would. The best solution is to get a testing kit and test all pills on the spot before buying. If they're not MDMA, don't buy them. No need to threaten/beat up anyone, just walk away. Money screams.