ATF Corruption: Operation "Fast & Furious"

Recently, certain members from the Phoenix division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have come forward admitting that they witnessed the purchase of hundreds of firearms, and were told to make no arrests at all. They were instead told to "take notes", "record observations" and "tracked movements" but never made an arrest. The apparent purpose was to uncover "conspiracies" within the 'management' of drug cartels, but the whistle blowing agents say that it "Never happens".

Some of these weapons have been tied to the recent murder of a border patrol agent named Brian Terry. The family of the deceased have agreed to testify. One of the whistle blowers is quoted as saying "We were giving weapons to people who were killing other humans".

This is a slip on the banana peel for the 'War on Drugs'. As most of these operations were tied to drug trafficking in one way or another, and the ATF is one of the fore runners in enforcing the 'War'.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Whistl...et-into-the-hands-of-criminals-123973999.html - Link

 

what i heard on the radio...

1. atf observed 'straw man' transactions that they KNEW were such in arizona (and maybe elsewhere in u.s.)...and did nothing. atf form 4473's were filled out, which require a statement to the effect 'are you the actual buyer of this firearm?'-and a 'no' answer 'stops the transaction'-strawman is illegal-felony

2. the firearms were transferred illegally to mexican nationals and cohorts of same and then 'appeared' across the border

3. some of the firearms have been identified as used in crimes after 'the atf lost track of them'.

i can't even make myself say 'wtf, over?'. government dumbasses strike again. fer gosh sake...just shoot the goddam drug traffickers, and let that guy in oregon grow all the pot he wants and sell it legally (and tax the sales).

i wonder...'why does the government allow this to continue?'-hahaha....yeah..don't YOU all wonder, too?

the only logical answer, is if someone (s) in power is getting more money in their pocket under the table than they could get in taxes if drugs were legalized. i don't think i could be convinced that a government which starts wars with the military helter skelter all over the world doesn't have the power to shut down firearms and drugs coming across the border...

the 'other' answer is...our government is fucking stupid and incompetent. pick an answer you like and run with it.

 

Kind of a...cock suck, isn't it?

 

The same bureau responsible for tobacco and alcohol is responsible for explosives and firearms? Looks like even they know that those two drugs are dangerous.

 

really don't have a thing to do with 'danger'; has to do with government bureaucracy turf wars, taxation and the camel's nose in peoples' tent. generally, the feds knew there was big money in booze, so they tried to control stills and personal home brewing. after prohibition, the 'trade off' became 'you can make your own at home for your use, but not sell it'. one of the original 'we're going to regulate this for your own good' (real meaning-'there's money and power in it, and we're going to grab it'). for further entertaining educational purposes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Alcohol,_Tobacco_and_Firearms

 

But even if cannabis and psychedelics were legal, there's no way one could loop those together with firearms and explosives. That's like going against the laws of nature.

There's no irony in having tobacco and alcohol there, though.

 

right...i see your point. the government, however, will not. it's not about 'how you view it or danger', it's about 'can it be taxed as a sin and people convinced that it is 'for their own good'?'.

tell me where tobacco is grown, and tell me how beer, wine and whiskey are made...and then tell me what is the makeup of firearm propellant, and what are firearms made of? all natural ingredients...black powder can be made from ingredients gotten from the ground and fire rings...the chinese made it that way originally.

hell, tnt is made of organic chemicals...no 'synthetic' fake crap in it-just a little chemistry, and voila!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitrotoluene

lsd is more fake than tnt (note-'semisynthetic').

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide

i see your point...but...you're going against the laws of nature in your thinking about 'how governments operate'. they tax to survive as a living organism. don't matter what it is they tax, if they can convince anyone to pay; they convince you that you 'need' them...or they simply 'appear on your person'...much like ticks which are also natural, or tapeworms, YOU are the host

don't bogart. share with uncle sugar.

 

Americaaaaaa-fuck yeah!

 

Oh, I definitely know the government's a load of crap. You don't have to tell me I was just making a rational comment independent of that. I was saying that in all honesty, it actually makes sense to have alcohol and tobacco there, because of their harm. I wasn't looking to get all technical about the government.

And the thing about LSD is that it's sourced from ergot, a rye fungus. I always found it dumb when people say they'll only touch mushrooms but won't touch LSD because it's "fake" or "not natural". In that case bread unnatural, too, because that also comes from natural ingredients and then goes through a chemical reaction.

Anyway, I'm getting off-topic and going on about other points.

 

ergot...yeah! a rye fungus, growing naturally as a parasite on other organisms...much like governments, kings and emperors.

RooR, i'm glad to see you waving the 'red, white n blue'!

nuke 'em til they pay their taxes!