The bible seems to be coming true...?

I was having a little comment battle on youtube with someone who was constantly "God god god"-ing it instead of saying many constructive things, the damn fool somehow believed that Turkey and NATO hates Isreal which is just ignorant because Isreal and Turkey are both in NATO (Isreal de facto) and they have a joint intelligence initiative, trilateral alliance with the USA etc. He was saying a lot about the bible being 100% accurate and it took me a while to get him to back himself up and he mentioned the Psalms 83 war, which I still need to research in full, then mentioned Ezekiel 38-39 which I looked up.

Is it me or are all the nations it mentions involved with or getting involved with the military action lately? Libya, Afghanistan, Iran, Ukraine and hints of Russia.

The question is, has the new international version of the bible been manipulated in translation or did it always prophecise these events? Are the power nations following a pre-set plan outlined in the bible or is this just coincidence? What the fuck is going on here?

It mystifies me, I would like some input and opinions to aid my thought process. What do YOU think?

 

Ezekial:
Do you really think Israel is living securely, peacefully, and without walls?

Psalm 83:
These nations must come together to destroy Israel.
According to this analysis, this would be Turkey, Iran, Libya and Sudan.


I think, even if you regarded this as prophecy, common sense would show that it's a long time away from being fulfilled.

 

is it supposed to come true?

prophecies are more slippery than eels, if you want my 3.16 cents . . .

 

How long is a long time? According to my view on world events, this kind of thing is going to happen sooner rather than later! These nations will not lie back and wait to be invaded one by one, they will unite and fight before their power diminishes to such a point to make it impossible.

 

These prophecies have been fulfilled for a long time. Every generation since the Bible was written experiences wars and natural disasters of some kind, and the "seers" amongst them come up with plausible linkages to ambiguous prophecies--be they Delphic, Judaic, Christian, Mayan, etc.

 

You must not know very much about world events if you think Israel is anywhere near a state of peace.

 

Answer my questions, please. Of course I know that Isreal is not in a state of peace, maybe you're taking the passage too literally?

 

Ezekiel 38 Verse 8:
In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.

11: You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. ..."

14 "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? ... '"

In just 23 verses, there were six references to Israel being a land of peace at the time of attack. It is even specified that there will be no gates, no walls, and no bars.


Your question was "How long is a long time?"; I shall answer it. Taking up to or beyond that of an average human lifespan.


Libya is in civil war.
Both Turkish and Sudanese governments have been aiming for peace between Palestine and Israel.
And Turkey probably isn't looking too friendly to Iran for (reluctantly) agreeing to a NATO-led attack on Gaddafi.

 

Libya's war is hardly civil, other countries are involved. Of course Turkey isn't looking friendly to Iran, Turkey is a member of NATO and has a joint intelligence initiative with Isreal AND a trilateral alliance thing with Isreal and USA.

There is also mention of a figure named barack???? WTF?

No gates, no walls, no bars. That could mean no - or changing - borders? So you think that the current conflict will die down and then the events in the bible will materialise?

 

Civil war = war among the people of a civil body. Whether other people are helping a side is irrelevant.

 

So according to the Bible (Tora, if you like: I'm mean) Gaia = WMD's being threatened for the defense of the Natonal Security = Genicide making it possible to dream that the world will be One one day with equal probability of death anywhere and everywhere.

 

The prophecies are not manipulated and the power nations are following a preset plan outlined in the bible, only I don't think they know it.

 

didnt the witnesses say this shit back in 1914?.

 

Something like that but I wouldn't call it shit.

 

my bad..



... :angelsad2:

 

So what specific prophecies are we talking? I can't seem to find anything about Afghanistan, China,Pakistan, or Libya, not to mention NATO and the United States, in my Bible. It used to be that the "Eagle and the Bear" was a pretty big deal,but that prophecy has been soft peddled lately. In The Late Great Planet Earth,Hal Lindsey cited a number of international developments to predict the end of the world in the '70s, and then the '80s, and then of course our own decade. Some of the likely protagonists back then were Saddam Hussein of Babylon (aka, Iraq), and the Soviet Union (Ezekiel 38 & 39). Russia is equated with Gog. The Prince of Rosh is the head of the Russian govt., etc. When the players change, the preachers find new counterparts for the prophecies. Keep track, and when the prophecies fail, call them on it.

 

Self Fulfilling Prophecy. Too bad there's no god to save us from the parasites that believe in one.

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Some think that the feet in Daniels vision represents America and Britain.

"The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it."

It's interesting because the national animal symbols of Britain is a Lion and America's uses an Eagle and we know America came from splitting off from Britain. With the heart of a man, that can represent Uncle Sam.

I know this funny story that I heard a while ago where Christians went to the bronze bull in wall street and they were praying to it to give America more money, lol. Didn't they read about the Golden Calf?

 

What about the return of Israel?

 

But that's the problem, and the explanation for the success of horoscopes and fortune tellers. Humans have an insatiable testimony to look for patterns and to give meaning to vague predictions. It would be hard from the original "lion and eagle" prediction to say--aha, that means that the American colonists are going to declare their independence from Britain. In retrospect, it could mean that, but then again it could mean something completely different. Televangelist Jack van Impe was convinced that the European community was a fulfillment of Daniel, Chapter 7, involving ten horns (the ten nations of the European Community at the time, get it!) But then the number grew to 27. Whoops! But hey, that includes ten. He also came to the conclusion that poor King Juan Carlos of Spain (who?) is the Antichrist, on the basis of an ancestral connection to the Holy Roman Empire. But some scholars are convinced that the Antichrist made his debut long ago in the person of the Emperor Nero. Others said Hitler, etc., etc. Where are the Biblical literalists when you really need them!