Im down to my last 3 Oxycodone 5/325's but I have a large amount of Klonopin, some other random benzos, and Ambien...My question is...should I just take my last dose of Oxycodone and be done with it, or would it be worth it to combine with the k-pins and try to make it last a little longer? Normal everyday dose is about 15-25mg oxycodone, just trying to squeeze 2 days out of these 3 pills haha Thanks!
First off give us some history, how long have u been taking Oxy at this level, and opiates in general. K-pin is an anti-convulsant muscle relaxer if im not mistaken, im not sure what benifits it adds to opiates but there must be something cause people drop dead daily from the combo, obviously on a much larger scale than you are probably looking at. Does the 15-25mg doses get you to where u want to be, if so, Im betting your tollerance is fairly low but if taken long enough u can surely get sick by running out. If it was me, Id take the last three, enjoy them and at your low doses id say you can be ok by monday possibly......
i take kpins on oxy but not very often. usually to beat the hype the oxy gives me. Id rather be relaxed when feeling shitty amped up. 2Mg Kpin with 10 mg OC. Safe in my opinion .. I wouldnt exceed that in a 6/8hr period.
Okay heres the update....Ive been taking fairly low doses 25-40mg a day depending of if I have hyrdo or oxy, and yes k-pins are just a benzo like xanax. This evening I went ahead and took the 3 5/325's and 1mg klonopin and Im exactly where I want to be.....looks like its gonna be a rough sunday :/ Do you guys know if the k-pins will help with the w/ds? because I hear xanax does... Ive been dosing daily for about 2 months so Im thinking I have atleast a couple sick days coming up. I have cymbalta also...maybe that will help with some of the symptoms. Thanks again for the advise!
IMO benzos do not help w/d much. They allow for sleep, which is good. But that is about it. Well...they might help a racing heart as well now that I think of it. But, in PESONAL experience, benzos are crappy in helping with w/d. The Cymbalta might help more actually, as it works on Norepinephrine and, according to two academic articles I have read, it acts very slightly on the mu-opioid receptors. That is not known for sure though. Are you currently taking the Cymbalta daily? If not, start low, like 20-30mg per day to see if it agrees with you. Just be prepared for 6-8 days of being dope sick and if the Cymbalta helps, then just be glad it did and report back.
ETK, do you really think at his dose level hes gonna be sick for that many days? Im thinking different because I jumped off a 120mg/day over 3 months of use and was basically over it at end of 3rd day, with lingering easily managable affects a couple more days. Now we all know it affects everyone different. Fellinopiated, your also gonna want to grab some Immodium AD for the shits if the Oxy has made you constipated, if not Id still have it on hand. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the K-pins are also a Norepinphrine reuptake inhibitor but im not sure thats the same thing ETK is refering to as he has a butt ton more knowledge about that stuff than I do......
^ You are right about his tolerance. I just assume that everyone posting here has a heavy opioid tolerance like us. I remember in my early days, 3 days was sufficient to get off of a month-long opioid binge. As for Klonopin being a NOR-Reuptake Inhibitor, it is not. The primary (and exclusive) pharmacological attribute of Klonopin (and all benzodiazepines) is that of a GABA-A receptor positive allosteric modulator (basically an agonist, but because of the structure of the receptor it isn't technically an agonist). This causes inhibition of neural firing through the potentiation of inhibitory GABA at the voltage gated ions on neuron membranes. If anything, it would reduce Norepinephrine flow given that it is inhibitory. This could be good OR bad for opioid w/d. I am not sure. We will have to see what the OP says about it! It could be like Clonodine (a norepiniephrine receptor down-regulator) and suppress the NOR-related symptoms, OR it could somehow UP-regulate the NOR-receptors, causing MORE symptoms. Sorry to be long-winded, but I wanted to be accurate.
Thanks alot guys, its rad to have a place to come share with other opiate lovers. And no, im not railing 120mg a day lol Ive tried to keep it in check (max approx 60mg codone per day) I just havent had to go without it for awhile. Thanks for the tip on the Cymbalta, but I havent taken any yet and I have 60mg capsules :/ is that going to be an issue? I dont have any experience with it so im not sure how ill react to it....Hopefully this is a short lived issue though and ill be able to reup soon lol ALSO! trust me...Im totally excited to be able to take a normal shit again
Ha, I remember when I would get my nod on after taking 3 lortab 7.5's, 60 mg of oxy seemed like a ton! Then a couple years later I was taking 200+ mg of oxy and not getting my nod on lol. You should be fine with or without the benzos, but they can help you sleep. I always made sure I kept a bunch on me when the withdrawals hit as the worst part for me was the sleeping problems. Good Luck, WD's suck...
i'd advise against using the cymbalta if it isn't something you take regularly. when i started cymbalta (30mg/day) it made me feel like absolute shit.... probably not something you want to risk combining with opiate withdrawal.
My honest advice, if you are not prescribed the opiates. And you are just binging because it is fun. You still have a low enough tolerance to cut back or quit alot more easily. If i were you i would use the kpins for the w/d they always helped tremendously with the extreme anxiety i got from W/d. I would take them for a few days until you felt better. Then try to just use them occasionaly and cut back your opiate use to ONCE or TWICE a month at the most. This way you don't have to face alot of the ugly problems opiate addiction brings. I am not a square or your mom....its just what i would have done if i could do it all over again. It saves your MONEY, TIME, RELATIONSHIPS, and you can still get high (if you can be patient), and it might save your ASS later down the road. Goodluck my man, I know i never listened when i got this same speech a few years ago.
