If you do not believe in God, you must not have read the Bible

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  1. thedope

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    This is where the blackness you see comes from.
     
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    waterbrother, where in the bible does it say gods name is jehovah?
     
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    Originally Posted by OlderWaterBrother View Post
    I just can't believe you,

    Love bears all things believes all things hopes all thing.....love never fails
     
  4. def zeppelin

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    It's simply an English transliteration of the tetragrammaton.
     
  5. thedope

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    Can you show me the bible verse?
     
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    Okay I see. Not a name we come up with by reading the bible only.





    Hebrew name for God: a four-letter Hebrew name for God revealed to Moses, usually written YHVH or YHWH(Exodus 3:13-14) .
    Orthodox Jews regard this name as too sacred to be pronounced
     
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    "But I will reveal my name to my people, and they will come to know its power. Then at last they will recognize that I am the one who speaks to them."
     
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    The point is, you never try to bring anyones mother into conversation and mix that with an idea that they could have lied. Even if you didn't mean for it to be that way, it's just bad choice to ever bring those words together.

    You don't at all seem apologetic about it

    Now you're trying to spin the blame on him by paraphrasing the Bible and try to generate guilt by trying to say he doesn't follow Biblical principals by not believing you. You do this through word play and mastery of words. Then you'll paraphrase it all again and try to place blame on anything even close to revealing that habit of yours.

    Why not just simply apologize to him and make it right?
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    "waterbrother, where in the bible does it say gods name is jehovah"
    "Can you show me the bible verse?"
    "Okay I see. Not a name we come up with by reading the bible only."

    Since there are some who seem not to have read the Bible or have not actually been "taught" what is in the Bible. I will answer these questions.

    In the KJV that most people seem to like or use, the name Jehovah can be found at;
    Exodus 6:3; Psalm 83:18; Isaiah 12:2; 26:4; Judges 6:24.
     
  11. thedope

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    Did you know that in place of the word jehovah in the revised standard version of the bible, the term "the Lord" is used?

    What power do you bring to bear with the name jehovah.

    In my life, it is the name from the burning bush that exhibits all power and influence over my life. I cannot but abide by it's edicts.

    I am.

    I am hot, I am tired, I am happy, I am sad, I am hungry, I am satisfied, I am cold, I am excited, I am depressed, I am saved, I am that I am and I am as god created me.

    Whatever you ask in the name you inherit from creation it is given to you immediately and in full measure, a thing you believe without doubt. I am has sent you. Do you remember what christ said, I will, be clean?
    My mother my brothers and sisters are those who do the will of my father.
     
  12. def zeppelin

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    Jews just became superstitious about God's name. Some verses were altered or added to the Bible so replacing God's name with LORD is just part of the issues with some translations.

    The power that I bear is that God; Yahweh; Jehovah; wants people to know who their creator is, that includes his name. Just as we know the name of our friends and family we know the name of our ultimate Father.

    Jehovah means "the existing one".
     
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    I am, I am that I am.
     
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    There is an argument out there that it's actually, "I will be what I will be".
     
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    I didn't intend to denigrate your mother if that is what you think I did.[/quote]

    I did, he does not believe me.
    Who is trying to spin blame? I am being told I have a black heart and am not with god. The son of god is blameless, the children of god are blameless. I do not say waterbrother is guilty, I say he does not know what he is doing. I do not say he does not know what he is doing because he does not believe me, but because he does not recognize the author of his own experience. By our own words we are justified or condemned.

    Bottom line, waterbrother would deny the holy spirit to me, in me, or with me, because I do not believe as he does about the bible. Not for any regard of my relationship with our father who is in heaven, or my relationships with my brothers. He has only suspicion for me.

    If I have a talent for words it is because it is the holy spirit who guides me to speak in the moment and waterbrother calls that making stuff up as I go along.
     
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    I will be, is not the same as the "existing one", I am.
    If you say jehovah means the existing one and I say I know I inherit gods name in creation as I am, how is that different? God reveals his name to his people, the difference is in form, not in content.

    Are you too going to deny me because I was not taught to use the word jehovah? I was taught that we pray to our heavenly father and why when I see god move with power in my life when I pray thus should I suspect that I am not right with god?
     
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    Man, I don't know what you're saying most of the time. When you say things like "does not recognize the author of his own experience", it makes me confused. Sometimes I think you say things like that as a wall of words to protect yourself from having a real meaningful conversation with people. All the years I known you on these boards you rarely ever just speak down-to-earth.

    I am not saying your talents are wrong but it would be nice if you just talked to us without saying confusing things; like now is a good example.

    Personally, I can't speak for anyone, but my own assessment of the conversations is that when something is explained clearly to you, you will end up paraphrasing the meaning behind it to make it sound like something it isn't saying. And I don't think anyone is denying the holy spirit to you, I think you do that with the walls you create. Just like with the whole Jesus is a Ransom sacrifice conversation, you end up claiming that it never says this and that the sacrifice is meaningless or paraphrase the Bible to clear that all away like it never happened.
     
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    Thank you for your gracious response. Like I said, the bible I have read and used my entire life has been the revised standard version given me by the church when I was ten years old as part of a program to study for baptism which occurred at age 12. That translation uses the words the Lord. I had no occasion to even suspect that this would present some sort of controversy.

    Isn't the king james the one you said was not particularly accurate in translation?
     
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    I said nothing else other than that is God's name. I have never denied you.

    You asked a question so I answered you so I'm unsure why all the bad vibes?
     
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    You are what you are not not.
     
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