4th of july a republican holiday?

what do you guys think the 4th of july is it only for republicans?

 

The 4th of July is an American holiday.


Democrats are Americans too. Although.......

on a serious note...it is the celebration of our country's indepence. No matter what party an individual is affiliated with, it is a crucial moment in our history and without it we would all be drinking tea and adding extra "u"s into words that dont need them.

 

Nope, it belongs to "We, the people" and the repub's can't have it... especially since they want to restrict freedoms by driving us into servitude to big money creeps.

 

Actually, quite a few republicans are in favor of following the Constitution as it was written (civil rights, etc excluded). That includes the bill of rights, and those my friend, are our original and most fundemental rights.

So saying that republicans want to restrict our rights is a far fetched, and extraordinarily broad generalization.

 

the 4th is about patriotism, not party affiliation.

 

^exactly

 

Agreed! 100%!

A document that has been amended only 27 times in more than 200 years – 17 if you consider that the first 10 (the Bill of Rights) were ratified along with the main body – can’t be wrong.

Saying that Republicans want to restrict our rights is so far fetched and such an extraordinarily broad generalization that it is, in the highest sense, twisting the facts – there are members of congress on both sides of the aisle that would restrict our rights. It must also be pointed out that many of the "entitlement" and "social" programs have the effect of restricting our rights – along with the "redistribution" of wealth mindset – by holding hostage the will of individuals to be more productive and thereby better their lives without government handout and interference.

 

It seems like you do.

Do you feel that Democrats should not be patriotic?

 

I hear what they say and I see what they do. Look at the rights we lost through the "Patriot Act". Also having nominal freedoms while being restricted by poverty doesn't add up to the freedoms I want. No need to argue...I have no use for republican and don't trust them... Democrats are the lesser of the evils

 

You all enjoy your Independence Day celebrations- including the parade

 

Here's what frosts my ass. When people in this country blame all of the problems on one party or the other. Guess what kids both parties have to corroborate to get this shit done.

As for taking away freedoms. Does anyone remember who got us into Vietnam? Kennedy the democrat. Does anyone remember who kept us there after Kennedy died? Johnson another democrat. Does anybody remember which national convention there was a riot at in '68? Democratic. Does anyone remember who was the loudest voice at the PMRC hearings? Al Gore, Democrat.

How about the Rave Act which states that if there is a drug bust at an event that the promoter of said event faces 10 years federal time. This was one that the Republicans used to bust NORML rallies. It was also defeated numerous times and was only passed when attached to an Anti-Crackhouse law. You know who sponsored it? Joe Biden Democrat.

I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat either. But to me blaming one political party over another when both have dirty hands is a form of bigotry. If you only tolerate people like you it isn't really tolerance. I saw an interview with Mikhail Gorbechev once where he was asked if he were an American if he would be a Democrat or a Republican? His reply was, "First you would have to tell me the difference."

Or in a more direct way:

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Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

ok rev j so you dont follow politics then ? you dont vote?

 

Sounds like he follows politics pretty damn well to me.

 

The way the government is now...I can't knowingly celebrate the 4th without feeling wrong in some patriotically perverted way. I feel like our country is being raped, and celebrating its birth seems hardly right to me while its mid coitus.

Is the 4th a republican holiday? No it belongs to everyone. But republicans are probably the only ones who still get the whimsical, cum in your jeans, self enthralling patriotism that the holiday is meant for. I just like seeing the pretty lights in the sky, and for once we have an excuse to make loud noises...which is nice.

 

I agree. Celebrate our freedom in America. It is for all people.

 

Well said, Rev !!

 

I think it's a time that we can all act like gun totin', red blooded, meat eatin', anti pronouncing the "ng" at the end of the words Americans.

Excuse me 'Mercia. The A is silent in redneck.

Let's get wasted, shoot off explosives, eat hotdogs and obsess about patriotism to fill our voided lives.

 

ok i have a another question : how do i avoid buying name brand shampoo and soaps? do i go to the dollar store? or just buy generic brands?

 

I'ma guessin' you speakin' from sperience.

 

I do hope your ass gets thawed out, Rev. And I definitely agree that there's enough blame to go around for both parties to share it.

But to say that "Kennedy got us into Vietnam" is a terrible oversimplification. Kennedy knew full well that a land war in Asia was not winnable, and was already drawing up plans to withdraw the troops he had sent. In fact, I'm sure you're aware that, according to one theory, this is a very big reason why he was killed ... because the CIA wanted that war.

As for Lyndon Johnson, my opinion is that he was mostly the victim of tragically bad advice from the military. That's no excuse, of course, because in the end he was the one who sent in the B-52's. But he wasn't a bad man. Vietnam will forever be known as his war, which is too bad. There was much more to his legacy than that.

And I'm not sure I get what Vietnam has to do with "taking away freedoms", anyway.

But back to the original question ... I'm afraid I drew a blank at the reasoning that associates a holiday to celebrate independence 250 years ago with one political party or another. What on earth is up with that?