psyclobin pills?

Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms' started by L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream, Jul 3, 2011.

  1. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    EDIT: i know i spelled psilocybin wrong in the title

    I have came across them at wakarusa this summer and a guy is selling me one for 25, promises me one will do me good. Has anyone ever heard of pressed psilocybin pills? I cant figure out if this is legit or not :confused:
     
  2. HermanDaVermin

    HermanDaVermin Banned

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    It's too expensive to manufacture synthetic psilocybin for it to be a practical venture, at least from things I have read.
    It does exist and clinical studies with it do use synthetic psilocybin in pill form, not actual mushrooms. They could be from some study or research program, but unlikely.
    Most likely it's some RC or LSD.
     
  3. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    hm, im going to test it today once the fireworks start going :party: hopefully ill get SOMETHING out of it. It looks like a quadruple stack roll with a mushroom pressed in. Who knows, maybe its just straight ecstacy. Either way ill tell you guys how it went.
     
  4. Smokey3

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    Probably 4-aco-dmt
     
  5. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    you serious? ive never heard of dmt in a pill...wouldnt the pill need an MAOI in it for the dmt to work?
     
  6. Smokey3

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    Its not dmt, its psilocibin...basically
     
  7. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    so i've read, i dont get why it would be classified as dmt though
     
  8. PurpByThePound

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    because it's not. it's a synthetic tryptamine
     
  9. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    oh jeez....


    4-AcO-DMT is NOT DMT. nor is it psilocybin (4-PO-DMT) or psilocin (4-HO-DMT)

    they are all different drugs. get them straight!

    or have fun eating your mystery pills
     
  10. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    thanks for clarifying. I still dont get why DMT is at the end of all those names, they aren't all dimethyltryptamine variants are they?
     
  11. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i guess you could call them "variants" of N,N-DMT, but they are completely different chemicals.
    4-acetoxy-dimethyltryptamine is the full chemical name of 4-AcO-DMT
    4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine is the full chemical name of psilocin

    N,N-dimethyltryptamine is "DMT"
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    They all have DMT in their chemical structure but the "variants" to the chemical structure cause the drug to be metabolized differently therefore many of them such as 4-aco dmt and 4-ho dmt can be taken orally.

    But yes, N,N DMT would need an Maoi to be active orally.
     
  13. MagicalTophat

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    Yeah sounds like 4-AcO-DMT. Or another synthetic research chemical with shroomy effects like Miprocin (4-HO-MiPT). Psilocin is a very fragile molecule and would probably degrade if you tried to extract it and press it. Not sure about psilocybin, but extremely doubtful. I know of one case where someone was selling 4-AcO-DMT and it picked up the name "shroom powder" because it has very shroom-like effects. 4-AcO-DMT can also be called O-Acetylpsilosin.

    Most psychedelics are either tryptamine or phenethylamine based. LSD, DMT, Psilocin, Psilocybin, and even the neurotransmitter serotonin are all tryptamine based. All of those but serotonin are variations of the DMT molecule. These are called "structural analogues" The tryptamines can also be called indoles.

    Then there are the psychedelic phenethylamines. Mescaline, the 2C family (2C-B, 2C-I), MDA/MDMA, DOM, and the neurotransmitters dopamine and epinephrine (adrenaline) are all phenethylamines.

    BTW, you mentioned it looks like a quad-stack. Just so you know, the whole concept of "stacks" is bullshit. A quad stack is not 4 pills in one, its just marketing.
     
  14. Mr.Writer

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    Surprisingly dense amount of misinformation all in one thread ;)

    Your pill is 99% 4-AcO-DMT. People commonly think that it is converted to Psilocin (4-HO-DMT) in your body, which is actually not a fact at all. It's a theory, and one that has no evidence for it, and lots of evidence against it (like how quickly 4-aco-dmt hits you, and how different it is from mushrooms).

    Anytime anyone tries to sell you mushrooms in any form other than MUSHROOMS, it is 99% going to be completely fake, or some other drug.

    It is not that 4-aco-dmt is a variant of DMT, it is that both 4-aco-dmt and DMT are variants of that "T" at the end of their names, the "Tryptamine". Tryptamines are a big class of psychedelics that both those happen to belong to. The other big class is phenethylamines like MDMA and mescaline.

    That all being said, if what you have is 4-aco-dmt, it's one of the best psychedelics out there. Enjoy :)
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    How quickly does 4 aco dmt hit you?

     
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    Same as that psilocin trip ^

    that's one reason i'm excited for my next shroom trip, to get another sample of it, to compare to 4aces :D only done shrooms three times, only had a good trip twice.
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    Ugggh dude, Terrible approach for you to take.

    http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=429495&f=126
     
  18. Mr.Writer

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    Maybe I'm just groggy this morning but I'm confused about that thread; if I understand correctly, what you're trying to test is the effects of 4-aco-dmt on its own VS. 4-aco-dmt injected into inert fungus? But then it sounds like you are injecting 4aces into magic mushrooms . . . so you're trying to see if magic mushrooms injected with 4aces have a distinct character to them from normal magic mushrooms?
     
  19. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

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    i ended up taking half, and then the other half 2 hours later, it was an alright trip, i could tell there was some kind of MDMA or something in it. I came down kinda fast and just felt like i was rolling. The visuals were very mushroom like and i was in deep thought for quite a while. I wish i took the whole thing at once because it was not as strong as i was expecting it to be.
     
  20. Mr.Writer

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    You might not know this but once you take a psychedelic you basically have instant tolerance to it, so that other half you took 2.5 hours later was drastically blocked from working. Also a lot of chemicals have a kind of "minimum point" before which the effects are very weak (similar to DXM plateaus if you're familiar with that). So for example if your dose was 30mg 4-aco-dmt, a whole dose would have given you a wonderful trip, while half that dose would NOT have given you "half" of a wonderful trip, but even less, basically what you experienced. for next time :D
     

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