The pharmaceutical industry is using people as test subjects

Side effects from synthetic chemicals are way more dangeraus and lasting than those from natural plants at small doses. Atropin for example has several main effects but the side effects are very mild, volatile and not lasting whereas chemical side efffects trigger new diseases and do profound harm to us, even at small doses.
There are millions of deaths from synthetic drugs but only a few from herbal medecine.

 

That wouldn't work for me, I always get them at night and they are quite violent. I would rather drugs than dislocated shoulders and bleeding limbs.

It's more the medical profession I'm pissed off at than drug corps. Doctors make no attempt to find the cause of the seizures and instead cover it up by treating the effects - excessive firing of neurons.

 

I doubt that - evidence?
What I'm saying is chemically, there's no difference. Nature does not make a distinction between molecules on the basis that one evolved naturally and one was made in a lab. Your distinction is entirely irrelevant - given slightly different conditions in nature, many drugs that are synthetic now would have developed under natural conditions. And because they didn't, you consider them unsafe. Natural products developed by chance, not to serve mankind. It's not magic and doesn't fit neatly into the lab=evil, nature=good.

 

even raffined sugar is very unhealthy but natural sugar (fruits) is healthy- that goes for every substance

 

You do what you have to do and what you feel is best for you. All I can offer is a word of support and say that I can relate. My friend, you're not alone.

There was a time when they used to try to find the source of the problem. But of course, there's more money in never ending treatments.

 

I'm on Carbamezipine and that's worked wonders for me.

The sensation I get is called JameVu (sp?).
It's a feeling of unfamiliarity in a place I've been before or a place I know very well.
It's the opposite of DejaVu.

 

Thats what im saying. Wheres the cancer cures? Big pharma's always coming up with designer drugs for things like 'twitching leg syndrom" and ADD drugs for school kids is all wrong.

 

i like my atropine with my LSA come up..

 

The food industry uses the consumer as a guinea pig... and what big food indu¢es, big pharma treat$... a rather symbiotic relationship if you ask me.

 

Don't forget the homeopath and natural remedies industries. They will throw any sort of inert plant, weed or mineral at you for the $ and people will always buy it just because it's natural. There would be not a trace of all this bitterness against pharmaceuticals if all these natural remedial industries weren't around to compete with them.

 

If it means making me and mine healthier, then by all means test on any one and anything

 

Those are predatory industries I agree, but they are not behind the over prescription of all manner of medication which I see as a means of ensuring big pharma's obscene profitability- THAT being a component in why medicine costs so much and why a diagnosis of a serious illness almost always portends financial ruin for the affected and his/her family- particularly if they are part of the so-called "middle class" (working poor). Homeopathy and natural remedies industries do not alter that in any way apart from duping folks into siphoning off needless resources often chasing a proverbial wild goose cure... so I hold much of that in similar contempt with the big, politically connected corporations who are granted a license to medicate and slow poison the population

 

yes when it becomes industrial, its no good healing any more. Healing is holy and a real healer will not demand any money from you. Anyone who demands money for healing you is a sharlatan. You cant work with medical plants in an industrial style. Every plant is a personality and should be treated as such.

 

Pharmaceutical companys conduct fraudelent medical research tests to get their drugs released to the public.They will use different species of animals and will only use the results that they are looking for and discard the negative tests..After the drug is released to the public,the first group of people to take this new drug are the guinea pigs as the drug was never tested on people .All species of animals show different results when tested because all species are quite different.Check out the video called Lethal Medicine .This movie exposee the fraud of the drug companys and explains the secrets the drug companys hides from the public.You can see it for free on you tube.Some one posted it on there in different parts.Please watch it all and educate yourself and others.

 

the 4 great rules of all forms of advertising/public relations are:

1. never be dull.

2. embrace willfully ignorant simplicity.

3. the public is stupid; treat them that way.

4. always ignore the facts and the public record when it is convenient to do so.


if people are dumb enough to belive the mindless shit that tv feeds them, well... :sad: :banghead:

 

My mother was just diagnosed with lupus last year, although we now know she has been suffering for many years...

At first, they had her on methotrexate which is an extremely dangerous medication. Her doctor warned her that some side effects have been known to cause death. Well, that wasn't working for her, so I began researching and ordering some herbal supplements that target rheumatoid arthritis and other things that lupus cause. When she went to her doctor, she told him about the supplements I ordered and he told her to go off them IMMEDIATELY!

The supplements I ordered for her were mostly potassium and magnesium mixtures, along with a few for menopause that included no hormones but eased the symptoms of menopause for her. Well, wouldn't ya know, her most recent blood work results came back with LOW POTASSIUM AND MAGNESIUM since she stopped taking her supplements and the methotrexate was depleting her body of these things...

So they ended up putting her on Enbrel...an injection that she gives herself once a week which I found out can cause TB and other ridiculous infections/diseases due to destroying the immune system..along with this list of side effects:

• Injection site reactions (redness, rash, swelling, itching, or bruising) -- in up to 37 percent of people
• Infections such as the common cold or a sinus infection -- up to 35 percent
• Headaches -- up to 17 percent
• Irritated or runny nose -- up to 12 percent
• Dizziness -- up to 7 percent
• Sore throat -- up to 7 percent
• Cough -- up to 6 percent
• General weakness -- up to 5 percent
• Abdominal pain (stomach pain) -- up to 5 percent
• Breathing problems -- up to 5 percent
• Heartburn -- up to 4 percent
• Vomiting -- up to 3 percent
• Mouth ulcers (canker sores) -- up to 2 percent.

I'm at a loss as to what to do since she trusts her doctor so much with this illness, but at the rate this is going, I'll have not only lost my father, but will be losing my mother, too...and all (in my honest opinion) due to these ridiculous pharmaceuticals...

 

we all have the choice

if we dont want to take it ...then we dont

its really easy




when it comes to kids though the state etc....might get involved

 

@OP

You mean, like this?

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LUS53x7uGY

 

Can I modify #3 to say
the public chooses to stay stupid.

 

Many diseases are preventable. If more people took responsibility for their own health and focused on prevention through simple measures like eating healthy and exercising, the rate of disease would go down. This would drive the cost of healthcare down and more money could be invested in proper research and better (less dangerous) drugs for diseases which can not be prevented or have no cure yet.