your body creates 10 billion new cells every day

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  1. tehuti

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    oh boy. what the hell do you think the field is made of? this is too simple and i feel like i should not have to even explain this. you do not know what a photon is, my bad I am definitely talking to the wrong person...dude this is simple and if you don't catch on soon i think i will move on if thats ok? was the information not clear? its right there in black and white, now can we move on?
     
  2. HermanDaVermin

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    Jimminy fuckin christmas dude, was it really that hard to say you are talking about the electromagnetic spectrum? The duality of light as both a wave and a particle, E=MC2 and all that shit, matter is energy moving/vibrating at different frequencies, blah, blah, blah, old news to me.
    I think you are using incorrect terminology in your previous question to me. Please now relate your prior mumbo-jumbo into terms and explanations that would fit with the references you posted and the model for the construct of matter proposed therein. Specifically how that relates to memory formation and why we retain memories when our cells are constantly being replaced, which was the OP's question.
     
  3. HermanDaVermin

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    Yes I know what a photon is, I question if you do. I wonder if you actually meant proton given how you used the term in relation to atomic structures and bonds.

    But your right time to move on.
     
  4. tehuti

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    anyway, anybody else want to discuss this...
     
  5. tehuti

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    I have been more than clear and fair on providing information on the basics. pretty simple...
     
  6. tehuti

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    did not see this post. but I think I answered part of that question when I said that neurons have memory storage capabilities. dna interacts with waveforms, i.e. information processing, through integration. the dna interacts with wave signatures 24-7 and the rna reads the dna based on the particular wave signature. and produces proteins based on it...as i said simple. when I said move on i meant move from this point and explain more...
     
  7. HermanDaVermin

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    Again could you kindly provide some documentation of this phenomena you are talking about with waveforms interacting with dna and all, or is it just your own personal theory?
    If it's your own theories, fine, I'm good with that, just don't portray it as absolute, verifiable fact.

    I think one of the biggest problems you are having in this and other discussions in these forums is that you have adopted your own terminology for things and as such you are really the only one who can understand what you are talking about. You speak of reaching a common ground, but that is only possible if we BOTH have an clear understanding of the language being used in the discussion.

    What specifically are you talking about when you use the term waveforms or fractal waveform?
    Yes I understand the definition of both the word waveform and fractal, but it appears you have applied a new meaning to the terms yet have failed to clearly define that meaning.

    And for the sake of clarity, lets keep it within the realm of that which is quantifiable, measurable and testable, NOT subjective or theoretical.

    I feel you place a LOT of weight and import upon your subjective experiences and then are offended when others don't "understand" or share your viewpoints which are based on that subjective experience.
     
  8. tehuti

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    nope I sure did not apply any knew meaning to anything. wth are you talking about? i made up those words?I have a patent on them. you still don't know what my point is dude. yes fractal wave form. I made that up? further I have heard NO rebuttals to the things I have presented. And? what subjective experiences have to do with what I am talking about now? where I have! i said something about my personal experiences? you are assuming too much I already proved half of what I was saying. the basis of matter is waves. waves surround and permeate all matter. these waves attract charge and cause particles to bond. wtf is so theoretical and new about this? if you don't know or understand just say so! you were the one saying something that had nothing to do with what I was talkin about and I made my point soundly!

    http://www.bcs.org/content/ConWebDoc/16170

    These wave approaches all require that the fundamental property of the chromosome apparatus is the nonlocality of the genetic information. In particular, quantum nonlocality within the framework of concepts introduced by Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen (EPR). The experiments carried out in Moscow directly relate this quantum nonlocality (i) to laser radiations from chromosomes, (ii) to the ability of the chromosome to gyrate the polarization plane of its own radiated and occluded photons and (iii) to the suspected ability of chromosomes, to transform their own genetic-sign laser radiations into broadband genetic-sign radio waves. In the latter case, the polarizations of chromosome laser photons are connected nonlocally and coherently to polarizations of the radio waves. Partially, this was proved during experiments in vitro, when the DNA preparations interplaying with a laser beam ( =632.8 nm), organized in a certain way, polarize and convert the beam simultaneously into a radio-frequency range. In these experiments, another extremely relevant phenomenon was detected: photons, modulated within the polarization by molecules of the DNA preparation. These are found to be localized (or "recorded") in the form of a system of laser mirrors' heterogeneities. Further, this signal can "be read out" without any essential loss of the information (as theory predicts), in the form of isomorphously (in relation to photons) polarized radio waves. Both the theoretical and experimental research on the convoluted condition of localized photons therefore testifies in favor of these propositions.

    These independently research approaches also lead to the postulate, that the liquid crystal phases of the chromosome apparatus (the laser mirror analogues) can be considered as a fractal environment to store the localized photons, so as to create a coherent continuum of quantum-nonlocally distributed polarized radio wave genomic information. To a certain extent, this corresponds with the idea of the genome's quantum-nonlocality, postulated earlier, or to be precise, with a variation of it.

    This variation says that the genetic wave information from DNA preparations, recorded within the polarizations of connected photons, being quantum-nonlocal, constitutes a broadband radio wave spectrum correlated - by means of polarizations - with the photons. Here, the main information channel, at least in regard to DNA, is the parameter of polarization, which is nonlocal and is the same for both photons and the radio waves. A characteristic feature is, that the Fourier-image of the radio spectra is dynamical, depending essentially on the type of matter interrogated. It can therefore be asserted, that this phenomenon concerns a new type of a computer (and biocomputer) memory, and also a new type of EPR spectroscopy, namely one featuring photon-radiowave-polarization. The fundamental notion is, that the photon-radio-wave features of different objects (ie the Fourier-spectra of the radio waves of crystals, water, metals, DNA, etc) are stored for definite but varying times by means of laser mirrors, such that the "mirror spectra" concern chaotic attractors with a complex dynamic fractal dynamics, recurring in time. These experiments are therefore not only unique in themselves, they are a first example, that a novel static storage/recording environment (laser mirrors) exists, capable of directly recording the space-time dynamical behaviour of objects. Further the phenomena, detected by these experiments, establishes the existence of an essentially new type of radio signal, where the information will be encoded by polarizations of electromagnetic vectors. This will be the basis of a new type of video recording, and will create a new form of cinema as well.

    Further experimental research has revealed the high biological (genetic) activity of such radio waves, when generated under the right conditions by DNA preparations. For example, by means of such artificially produced DNA radiations, the superfast growth of potatoes (up to 1 cm per day) has been achieved, together with dramatic changes of morphogenesis resulting in the formation of small tubers not on rootstocks but on stalks. The same radiations also turned out to be able to cause a statistically authentic "resuscitation" of dead seeds of the plant Arabidopsis thaliana, which were taken from the Chernobyl zone in 1987. By contrast, the monitoring of irradiations by polarized radio waves, which do not carry information on the DNA, are observed to be biologically inactive. In this sequence of experiments, additional evidence was also obtained in favour of the possibility of the existence of the genetic information in form of the polarizational radio wave physical field. This supports the supposition that the main information channel in these experiments is the biosign modulations of polarizations mediated by some version of quantum nonlocality. A well known fact can therefore be seen in new light, namely, that the information biomacromolecules - DNA, RNA and proteins - have an outspoken capacity to optical rotatory dispersion and circular dichroism. Similarly, the low molecular components of biosystems, such as saccharides, nucleotides, amino acids, porphyrins and other substances have the same capacity; a capacity, which until now made little biological sense. Now, however, this capacity supports, the contention that this newly detected phenomenon of quantized optical activity can be considered as the means by which the organism obtains unlimited information on its own metabolism. That is, such information is read by endogenic laser radiations of chromosomes, which, in their turn, produce the regulative ("semantic") radio emission of the genome biocomputer. Furthermore, the apparent inconsistency between the waves lengths of such radiations and the sizes of organisms, cells and subcell structures is abrogated, since the semantic resonances in biosystems' space are realized not at the level of wave lengths, but at the level of frequencies and angles of twist of the polarization modes. Similarly, this mechanism is the basis for the artificial laser-radio-wave vitro-in vivo scanning of the organism and its components.



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  9. tehuti

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    http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=5776708


    ABSTRACT

    "Current state-of-the-art approaches for biological sequence querying and alignment require preprocessing and lack robustness to repetitions in the sequence. In addition, these approaches do not provide much support for efficiently querying sub-sequences, a process that is essential for tracking localized database matches. We propose a query-based alignment method for biological sequences that first maps sequences to time-domain waveforms before processing the waveforms for alignment in the time-frequency plane. The mapping uses waveforms, such as Gaussian functions, with unique sequence representations in the time-frequency plane. The proposed alignment method employs a robust querying algorithm that utilizes a time-frequency signal expansion whose basis function is matched to the basic waveform in the mapped sequences. The resulting WAVEQuery approach was demonstrated for both deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) and protein sequences using the matching pursuit decomposition as the signal basis expansion.We specifically evaluated the alignment localization of WAVEQuery over repetitive database segments, and we demonstrated its operation in real-time without pre-processing. We also demonstrated that WAVEQuery significantly outperformed the biological sequence alignment method BLAST for queries with repetitive segments for DNA sequences. A generalized version of the WAVEQuery approach with the metaplectic transform is also described for protein sequence structure prediction."
     
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    Well, I guess you do know how to cite resources, thankyou.
    Just wish it wasn't so damn difficult to get you to actually post them. From what I have perused so far, it's rather interesting but still mainly theoretical. One study does not confirm the reality of the theory.
    Are there any other experiments concerning this that you are aware of?
    I will read more and check it out further.
     
  12. tehuti

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    I'm still waiting on you to disprove what I have stated....and thanks...
     
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    Thanks tehuti, for all the info.
     
  15. tehuti

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    Thanks for listening
     
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    I think so to be smart enough to make all that money you must have been stupid enough to want it in the first place
     
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    the question is will man one day live forever!? lol
     
  18. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    interesting read
     
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    Biologic replication is done by a template/mold sort of process. That is, the DNA or molecule makes an exact negative copy of itself and then the negative creates the new bit, which is an exact replica of the first one. In that way, they pass on the precise configuration of the old item that dies off. However memories are stored, be it chemical, atomic or spirit, they must use something like this. The fact that memories are retained proves that. The cells, when they reproduce, just divide in half, each cell being a duplicate of the mother cell. Whatever the mother cell had in her, whether we can measure it or not, would be in the daughter cells.
     
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    Very interesting indeed!!
     

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