What Conservatives Really Want

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wa bluska wica, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. scratcho

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    And now there is talk in some states regarding the restriction of students right to vote. The particular details don't matter so much-just the fact that it is being brought up at all.I thought voting rights were settled some time ago, but I understand why the republicans want to engage in this behaviour, because as one of them stated-"students don't have enough life experience-they just vote their feelings". This will or should give them some instant life experience as to how far the republicans will go to get elected. A return of the poll tax as used in the south decades ago to freeze out the poor from voting??
     
  2. scratcho

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    Bump this bitch up.
     
  3. reb

    reb Member

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    shit...i don't even recall the thread. damn alzheimer's...

    i'm struggling trying to figure out if it's even worth my time to vote anymore. if i listen to stinkfoot, he convinces me i would be better off planting tomatoes or something. i can pretty much convince myself of the same thing. damn.

    here's my position...either every friggin' one of us who is a valid citizen needs to vote, or we may as well all stay home. this continual 50% (+ or -) since i have been of voting age is not cutting the mustard. the fact that there are 'only two choices' is not cutting the mustard. in fact, the system has deviated from cutting the mustard.

    i gotta go listen to mary poppins..politics is a bummer.
     
  4. Fawkes

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    In reference to scratcho's post about college students' right to vote

    http://act.mtv.com/posts/proposed-laws-threaten-college-students-right-to-vote/

    I don't see anything controversial in this article, except that people are protesting common sense laws. Maybe there is something I don't understand.

    You live in MA and you go to college in NH. So, you've got to get an absentee ballot from MA, big frickin' deal. You don't get to vote in NH. Also, I don't like the idea of registering and voting on the same day because that creates the opportunity for a big liberal past time; voter fraud.

    OK, that was insulting for the NH SOTH to call students foolish. Behave yourself man.

    As for government IDs in order to vote; I don't even know why we are having this conversation. Why is that controversial? You have to prove your identity, right. It is completely obvious and necessary that a driver's license or passport or something should be required to vote. So hopefully NC, MO and WI get those laws passed. I think the liberals don't like the idea of government IDs at the polls, because they want to allow the illegal aliens, and other non-citizens, to vote. And of course they would all vote Democrat. More voter fraud.

    As for what conservatives want. We want the constitution to be followed, in a nut shell. Lower taxes, more prosperity, better schools, close the borders, reform the immigration process, fix the parts of health care that are broken and leave the rest alone, and stop borrowing so much money from the damn Chinese. No, Bush was not a conservative. Yes, politicians have been screwing this country up for decades, and Obama is the worst of the lot. If there has been a worse more tyrannical president than this one, I don't know who it was.

    Obama is a complete fucking asshole, I wish I could meet him and tell him that to his face.
     
  5. Metameme

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    It's only the poor who dislike the conservative ways :/

    And children..
     
  6. S&L

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    Students should NOT be permitted to vote.
    many of them have no idea or interest on current affairs and are under the influence of leftwing teachers, socialist agitators, drugs & alcohol.
    No personunder 25 should ne allowed to vote, and any student until the finished with honors and worked at least 5 years.
    So what if some of them are not allowed to vote until age 35 or 40. Should have hurried up when at university.
     
  7. Fawkes

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    Sounds like someone wants a constitutional amendment, eh? Or maybe we should go back to the was back in the days when only landowners would be allowed to vote. How would that do, mate?

    I agree do agree with you, and the New Hampshire State Speaker of the House, that many students don't know what they are talking about because they have been influenced by their teachers. They don't realize that the liberal ideology is a step backward. But I can't see that being a factor in allowing someone to vote. No, it stays at 18, and we work on the other things. Like controlling illegal immigration (because all of them will vote democrat) and the media (because most media is pro-democrat) and the teachers. And it all needs to start at home, parents need to talk to their children. Educate their children on the ways of the world and the evils of tyranny, even a soft tyranny like this current administration in Washington (And many of the past Administrations as well.)
     
  8. Fawkes

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    And the rich that can benefit from crony corporatists like Obama and Bush.
     
  9. ronny25

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    The individual issues are all too real: assaults on unions, public employees, women’s rights, immigrants, the environment, health care, voting rights, food safety, pensions, prenatal care, science, public broadcasting, and on and on.
     
  10. tuesdaystar

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    There is no MONEY

    There is only POWER
     
  11. tuesdaystar

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    Age has nothing to do with ignorance.

    Most people are under-educated and under the influence of their personally selected biased sources of information.

    I only listen to progressive talk radio in my car while my mom only listens to conservative sources and her pastor.

    Why do you think so many teachers and educated people are left-leaning? Could it possibly be because they are MORE informed about social issues?

    For instance, analysis of empirical data shows that social safety net spending puts $0.71 for every $1 of real money back into the economy, more than any other govt spending (especially corporate welfare, the largest recipients of welfare are corporations).

    Statistically, liberals are urban and educated.

    But really this diachotomy in values is not going to change. What seems blatantly dysfunctional, destructive, or unjust to me seems right and good to others. And what seems obviously logical, productive, and just to me seems abominable to others.

    So long as we are humans, we will be certain of what is right and we will certainly disagree.
     
  12. ronny25

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    I think so if conservatives don't want the government to tell us what we can and cannot do, why are so many Prohibitionists
     
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    In conservative family life, the strict father rules. Fathers and husbands should have control over reproduction; hence, parental and spousal notification laws and opposition to abortion. In conservative religion, God is seen as the strict father, the Lord, who rewards and punishes according to individual responsibility in following his Biblical word.
     

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