looking for tips on ayahuasca

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Babylon_Jasmine, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. Babylon_Jasmine

    Babylon_Jasmine Member

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    I have never tried ayahuasca or DMT, tried to extract from phalaris arundinacea once, but without much success. I'd like to know if anyone who has successfully had a powerful ayahuasca trip would give me some tips. Best speices of DMT containing plant, best MAOI, best method of preparation, best place to get it, etc. I am experienced with LSD, Shrooms, Salvia, Amanita mushrooms, and Dramamine, so I am not a psychedelic newcomer, just looking for advice on how to get the best experience from ayahuasca without going to south america as I cannot afford that.
     
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    DMT Plant: Mimosa Hostilis or P. Virdis
    MAOi: Caapi (traditional), Syrian Rue (extract is an option)
    Best method of preparation: Ayahuasca (full extraction is much much harder)

    Before you make ayahuasca do LOTs of readings. There are plenty of ways to fuck up, for instance, letting the water boil. Whatever you do, ALWAYS keep stirring, and never leave the pot. If you really need to, then take it off the burner.
     
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    Thanks. I have been doing a lot of research in the Ayahuasca forum and learning a lot of things. Right now I am trying to figure out the differences between Mimosa and P. Viridis (or Chaliponga, which I do not remember the botanical name of)
     
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    mimosa is cheaper but supposivly gives you more nausea then virdis...
     
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    ayahuasca.com is a great site... wonderful forum. So many people who really know their stuff.
     
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    The most important thing is be prepaped. The first time I did Ayahuasca nothing happened for a few hours, then out of nowhere the puking started. About half way into heaving the shit hit me like a load of bricks and my eyes turned into rainbow kaleidoscopes
     
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    Don't do what I did and forget to use lemon juice or something similar. I just simmered in water and it didn't do much at all- a big disappointment because I really prepared myself and everything. Next time, soon, I won't fuck it up- been wanting to try this stuff for years.
     
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    First of all you must have respect for the plant and do a special diet. The best way is to have a good Shaman guide you. Leave all your baggage behind and accept the element of surprise. Have your questions ready but do not have any expectations. Do not critique what you see of yourself. It is like planting a seed but you must see it grow.
    I recommend the Wayna Apu Healing Centre in Cusco Peru (Wahca) www.cuscowahca.com or email wahca@hotmail.com The ceremonies are held with Shaman Carlos Camilo and his assistant Doris
    I had the Ayahuasca and San Pedro Ceremonies with them. They are the best.
     
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    But, from what I understand, the traditional method calls for long and repeated boilings with little stirring. What method doesnt allow you to boil? I've never seen that...
    I had good results using this method:
    1. Gather enough vine and leaf so that you have 50g caapi and 50g viridis per person, and make sure you add an extra dose or two in there in case of premature purging.

    2. Take your vine and shred it. You can do this however you like, I use a metal mallet to pound and pick it apart, just try not to get it all over the place. It doesn't have to be perfectly finely shredded vine, just broken up pretty good into long thin strings. Tear apart your viridis leaves also.

    3. Toss all of your ingredients into a big stew pot (use steel NEVER aluminum). Take a jug of distilled water, which can be found in any supermarket in gallon jugs next to spring water. Pour enough water that will cover the ingredients, and then add about 50% more of what you just added. So if it took 3 liters to cover all of your material, add another 1.5 liters. While you're doing this, make sure you remember exactly how many liters you add. For every liter of water you added, add 2 tablespoons of cider vinegar(white will work too) into your pot. NEVER use lemon and using any other type of acid will usually show up in the final brew resulting in premature purge. Stir all of this up pretty good, put the top on and let it soak on your countertop for 8-12 hours.

    4. Now that you're done letting the acidic water suck out the goodies, you're ready to brew. Take off the top, put the pot on the stove and let it come to a simmering boil. Not a roaring boil, but a nice smooth boil. Do this for 3 hours, stirring occasionally, adding bits of water along the way making sure it doesn't get too low.

    5. Now grab another pot, a big piece of cheesecloth, and another pair of hands. Have those hands hold the cheesecloth over the empty pot, while you slowly decant your brew through this filter. Now you'll have a mush of ingredients in one pot, and liquid in the other. Put the pot with the liquid to the side.

    6. Add the same amount of fresh water you added last time to the pot with the ingredients, except this time only add a half of a tablespoon per liter of water. Do step 4 again, but you only need to do this for 2 hours, not 3. Grab the pot you put to the side, and repeat step 5.

    7. Repeat step 6.

    8. Now you have done 3 different washes, one for 3 hours and two for 2 hours. One pot will have the ingredients, and one pot will have the 3 combined washes. If the ingredients still look like they have a lot of actives in it, you can do a 4th wash if you like, but usually it's not needed. Discard the pot with the ingredients, and put the other pot back on the stove. Slowly simmer this liquid down to the amount you want to drink. If you evaporate it down a lot you will end up with a thick brew, but will only need to take one small gulp. If you just simmer it down a little bit it won't be thick, you'll have a little more to drink, but it tastes a lot better. I personally simmer down to about a half of a cup per dose so I can slowly sip it.

    You're done!

    Do the simple math to determine how much brew equals 50g caapi and 50g viridis and divide it up. If you're not going to drink right away just put it in a mason jar and toss in the fridge. The brew can last quite a long time if sealed right. After a few weeks it will ferment like beer or wine, but this is still safe to drink. Just add a little water and boil for a few minutes and it won't taste as bad.

    Note: I just copied and pasted that, I take no credit for writing it!
     
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