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Discussion in 'Transexual and Transgender' started by wannatryit, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. wannatryit

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    I'm a little confused about the definition of transexual or transgender. Is a transexual born a man and just dresses up like a woman. I see beautiful women online who say they are tranny's but have great breasts, gorgeous faces but also a dick. Are they considerd transgendered?? The reason I'm asking is I always considered myself straight but have fantasized for a few years now of sucking another guy. But sucking a gorgeous "woman" and also getting to kiss her and play with her tits would be my ultimate fantasy. Could never kiss or be emotionally attached to another guy or someone who was born a guy and just got implants. Sorry for my ignorance and thanks in advance for your replies.
     
  2. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    transsexual is someone is a man or woman dressed as the opposite sex. so they still have what they consider to be the wrong genitals. they may undergo certain treatments (hormones etc.) however.

    transgender are people who have had a sex change and have altered their below region, as well as undergone hormone treatment etc. to become the other sex.
     
  3. Invisible Soul

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    You've got that the wrong way round. :p

    A transsexual is someone who feels they are born in the wrong body, and takes medical steps to correct their body so it is closer to what they feel it should be. Transsexuals see themselves as the opposite sex to the one they were apparently born as.

    Transgender covers many different behaviours that subvert socially accepted gender norms. Such as transvestitism, autogynephilia, and people who either see themselves as both genders, or no gender at all.

    Transsexualism is also a recognised medical condition, whereas gender norm subverting behaviours are generally not regarded as such.
     
  4. wannatryit

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    So there's actually no such thing as a female born with a penis correct? Like I said, some of the websites I go on there voices are female, there breasts are perfect(implants I'm sure) and they are gorgeous.
     
  5. eggsprog

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    i have female friend born with a penis... kind of strange. she has internal female organs, and breasts, but has a penis. she's soon going under the knife to get things changed to be all female.
     
  6. Invisible Soul

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    Well, there is some scientific evidence to suggest that at least some transsexuals have a brain structure more congurent with the opposite sex than that of their apparent birth sex. And that this is very likely to be something a person is born with. So technically speaking, it is possible for a female to be born with a penis. That's not to say that all transsexuals fall under this category, but some of them do. The only difficulty, is with current technology, it's impossible to tell what gender in brain structure someone has without diseccting the brain. Which can obviously only be conducted after death. So I always treat transsexuals as being the gender they identify as being, rather than by their apparent birth gender.
     
  7. sunfighter

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    Re #5: But that is very, very rare. The shemales you see on the web are almost all people born as males who think they should be female and who are in various states of preparing for the big operation to remove their male parts.
     
  8. Invisible Soul

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    That has nothing to do with being transsexual though. It sounds as if your friend was born either with hermaphroditism (which is very rare) or with an intersex condition. (which is far more common, but not widely known about due to the medical profession trying to cover it up for many years) I myself, am mainly female genetically, but was wrongly brought up as male due to having ambiguous genitalia at birth. I will finally be getting surgery soon to correct my genital area.
     
  9. Invisible Soul

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    That is a myth, at least generally speaking. Many "shemales" you see on the web, are not actually transsexuals. They are usually either men who have had treatments to make themselves appear more female for sexual gratification, but actually enjoy their male anatomy, (so technically are not transsexual) or they are transvestites/genetic women who have had their images digitally manipulated to resemble trannsexual women. A lot of "she-male porn" on the web features no genuine transsexual people in them at all.
     
  10. sunfighter

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    Oh, well, you might be right. Maybe I was giving them too much credit. But how do you know that?
     
  11. Invisible Soul

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    I myself, don't know anything about it, seeing as I neither watch porn of any kind, or have any interest in it. The information I just posted, I got mainly from reading transsexuals conversing about the subject. And presumably some who actually had a lot of knowledge about it.

    When you also take into account that a lot of the general public have too broad a sense of what it means to be a transsexual, (meaning many people who actually aren't transsexual are being mis-labelled as such) and that there actually is a lot of faked porn out there, it shouldnt be too much of a stretch of the imagination to reach the conclusion that a lot of "shemale porn" actually features no transsexuals at all. As a side-note, most genuine transsexuals despise the term "she-male" as a label for themselves, so make of that what you will. lol
     
  12. sunfighter

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    So, where is this transsexual forum? Can you post a link? I'm still not convinced you're right -- you don't seem to have much evidence.
     
  13. Invisible Soul

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    I haven't been to the forum in years, but it is a private forum that you have to send an email to and a 300 word message stating why you want to join. And then you have to wait for up to 5 days to see if your application to join has been accepted. You don't need to be transsexual to register, but you do need to have a vested interest in the subject that isn't discriminatory. It was a yahoo group forum, now that I think of it.

    Although I have also read similar info in other places. So I think there is at least some truth to it. When you also take into account that most genuine transsexuals diagnosed with gender dysphoria have a deep loathing for their male genitalia, it's pretty hard to believe that these people would be all up for parading what they detest so much for all to see, and use them in public in sexual activity. With all Ive read on the subject, and just using plain common sense, I think its pretty safe to assume that at least some "she male" porn does not feature genuine transsexuals who hate their male body parts.
     
  14. sunfighter

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    Agreed, but they get paid for pretending otherwise.
     
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    "Lauras play ground" its a transgender site.. They will answer many questions we here can not.. but I would trust the Info that Invisible Soul provided..

    http://www.lauras-playground.com/ it is not Pornographapy related site, you can not post right away. They keep out trolls and other material that can damage the integrity of their Mission....
     
  16. Invisible Soul

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    While that may, in some cases be true, (I certainly cant, so won't, dispute that) it still doesn't mean that a majority of, or even a lot of, "she male" porn features such people. Though with no official statistics on the subject, it's impossible to say. I do personally think that the whole "she male" porn industry is a huge set back for transsexuals who simply want to be recognised by people in general as the gender they identify as.

    I am not a transsexual, but have some male physical characteristics due to having an intersex condition that was not medically treated properly when I was younger. And my genital area just looks horrific. There's no amount of money in the world, that could make me show my body off on the internet for the world to see. (or even to anyone at all, in it's current state) Just me having to see it, is bad enough. Id sooner take a bullet than do anything like that. And Im sure a lot of genuine transsexuals have very similar feelings, because I have heard many saying they despise their male genitals.
     
  17. Invisible Soul

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    I have never been a member of Laura's Playground, nor have I even heard of that site. :p

    The forums I was a member of was run by a yahoo group. (I added this info to my previous post. lol) But they did have a system in place to keep out trolls, and people who discriminate against transsexuals.
     
  18. GlowingMarble

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    transexual is an out of date term also meening transgender , transgender meens somone born as one sex whos gender dus not mach, so say born as a boy but has a girl brain, just like me :)
     

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