I've never tried any psychedelics before. I recently ordered some 20x and I have a water bong to take it. I thought 20x would be a good place to start, but from reading some of the accounts on this forum it seems I should have started on 5x. My question is, how big a hit should I be taking as a first timer on 20x? Bear in mind I'm a complete novice to psychedelics, so I want to take it easy. Peace and Love eace: Edit: I've been reading a lot that you should use a torch lighter to burn the salvia, as it needs higher temperatures to release the active ingredients. Is this essential, or can you still do it with a normal plastic lighter?
I've heard the torch lighter thing as well, and have always used it. So if it works with a regular lighter I wouldn't know. The trick with salvia is you can smoke it nice and slow, maybe throw it on a blunt, and it will last a little longer and have milder effects. But if you smoke an entire bowl yourself, in less than 30 seconds, then you will truly experience it. Your choice. I made contact with the so-called "machine elves," and now if I concentrate on that experience, it's almost as if I can go back there. Good luck. Don't be surprised if you hear a woman's voice either.
A torch lighter is more efficient than a regular lighter. You need to pack a bit of weed/herb resin or something to clog the stem hole so the salvia doesn't fall through when lit and I'd load a little less than halfway up the bowl (however much you want really though) and take 2 large hits, hold in the smoke for a legitimate 10-15 seconds. Most likely you may feel off after the first hit but try and go for the second hit! Try to go in without expectations!
Thanks for the tips, but has anyone tried it with a normal lighter and can say that it works? If not, where would I buy a torch lighter? Peace and Love eace:
^^^i tried it with a regular lighter. it worked i took two hits of 10X in a small (~10 inch) water bong. packed the slide about halfway full - it's not a very big slide. just a pinch really. if you want to take it easy, salvia really might not be the drug for you. the first couple times i smoked it, i must not have done it right - i smoked it too slowly and i felt high in a weird way and giggly...but when i tried it the 3rd time i truly experienced it. be prepared for a very intense trip. you probably want a close friend around to take the bong from you after the 2nd hit
Yeah, I plan on having a sitter. When I said I want to take it easy I just meant I don't want to go crazy my first time. Eventually, but not my first . I know it's a psychedelic, and you have to respect all psychedelics. Peace and Love eace:
my first time i used a dry pipe, and took a huge rip of 60x and held it forever. I was in a baseball field in the middle of the day, and after i ripped it i got so lost. there were little cactus looking people that i kept pealing out of the air, but they came back like a windmill every time. i could not see anything real anymore, and it was insane. I have not had the balls to rip the sally like that since then lol.
Yeah works fine with a regular lighter if you absolutely can't get a torch. Hold the hit. Start off easy.
hold the flame on it the whole time though. and hold your hit(s) in a long time. and smoke it quickly
