God Theories

GOD is a clown and I like clowns..

 

"There was never a time when the world began, because it goes
round and round like a circle, and there is no place on a circle where it
begins. Look at my watch, which tells the time; it goes round, and so the
world repeats itself again and again. But just as the hour-hand of the
watch goes up to twelve and down to six, so, too, there is day and night,
waking and sleeping, living and dying, summer and winter. You can't
have any one of these without the other, because you wouldn't be able to
know what black is unless you had seen it side-by-side with white, or
white unless side-by-side with black.

"In the same way, there are times when the world is, and times when
it isn't, for if the world went on and on without rest for ever and ever, it
would get horribly tired of itself. It comes and it goes. Now you see it;
now you don't. So because it doesn't get tired of itself, it always comes
back again after it disappears. It's like your breath: it goes in and out, in
and out, and if you try to hold it in all the time you feel terrible. It's also
like the game of hide-and-seek, because it's always fun to find new
ways of hiding, and to seek for someone who doesn't always hide in the
same place.

"God also likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing
outside God, he has no one but himself to play with. But he gets over
this difficulty by pretending that he is not himself. This is his way of
hiding from himself. He pretends that he is you and I and all the people
in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the
stars. In this way he has strange and wonderful adventures, some of
which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams,
for when he wakes up they will disappear.

"Now when God plays hide and pretends that he is you and I, he does
it so well that it takes him a long time to remember where and how he
hid himself. But that's the whole fun of it—just what he wanted to do.
He doesn't want to find himself too quickly, for that would spoil the
game. That is why it is so difficult for you and me to find out that we
are God in disguise, pretending not to be himself. But when the game
has gone on long enough, all of us will wake up, stop pretending, and
remember that we are all one single Self—the God who is all that there
is and who lives for ever and ever.

"Of course, you must remember that God isn't shaped like a person.
People have skins and there is always something outside our skins. If
there weren't, we wouldn't know the difference between what is inside
and outside our bodies. But God has no skin and no shape because there
isn't any outside to him. [With a sufficiently intelligent child, I illustrate
this with a Möbius strip—a ring of paper tape twisted once in such a
way that it has only one side and one edge.] The inside and the outside
of God are the same. And though I have been talking about God as 'he'
and not 'she,' God isn't a man or a woman. I didn't say 'it' because we
usually say 'it' for things that aren't alive.

"God is the Self of the world, but you can't see God for the same
reason that, without a mirror, you can't see your own eyes, and you
certainly can't bite your own teeth or look inside your head. Your self is
that cleverly hidden because it is God hiding."

- Alan Watts explaining the Hindu's Vedanta

 

They usually don't have a working knowledge of relevant scientific concepts.

There are a lot of reasons people have for believing in a god-thing. Most of the time, it's because they were brought up having that idea drilled into their head. The United States is the only country in the developed world that where religion is still so popular and such a big deal. It is approaching irrelevance in much of Europe. This is because the gaps for the "god of the gaps" to fill are becoming fewer and smaller. Of course there will always be gaps; I don't believe the sum of human knowledge will ever encompass all possible knowledge. It then becomes a matter of admitting ignorance (and if you ask me, there is more reverence in that than in clinging to the catch-all, unfalsifiable beliefs of the abrahamic religions).

 

Point taken. My experience with such people suggests that this lack of critical data makes them no less sure of their beliefs. I believe they are free to believe what they like as long as they do not try imposing their dogma on me as though it were scientifically proven and I am simply to take at face value their word and not question their presumed authority on the subject. On such occasions aggressive evangelical wannabes find me to be a problem.

The concept of God as we understand it I believe to be a purely artificial, man-made notion created for the purpose of making large numbers of people easier to control.

 

I remain skeptical.

 

I'm on the same level with ya, there is no way we just happened. I believe some higher power created everything.

Oh no, they are definitely not "God" in the sense of being at the top of the food chain, not the "higher power". But since gods were a concept we came up with, they very well could have been what ancient people based their stuff around.

 

yes and no.. I believe a time long ago.. and still probably relevant to smaller indigenous tribes.. that they actually believe in a "god" because they have no better way of knowing why things happen the way they do.. Romans are definitely the ones that took it to the next step to use as a way to pursued the masses to do as their told

 

Personally, I follow the cult of the Great Green Arkleseizure. We Believe that the universe was sneezed out of the nose of the Great Green Arkleseizure, and we thus live in perpetual fear of the time we call 'The Coming of the Great White Handkerchief.'

 

what about the Sleeve of Sorrow?

 

gods real cause everything we think is real. the fact that the christian god is created by a bunch of backward ass christians means that christian god is more of a demon than a god, thus i do not worship him. i worship phish because im pretty sure theyre what really decides what goes down. if anybody was at super ball IX you would have heard trey telling everybody that reality as we know it is just a projection they created back in the 80's. i wouldnt be surprised if thats how it all goes, i also dont care if im wrong

 

my theory is that no living human knows a fucking thing about god...or even has the right name for it.

bugs know more than humans do about god.

 

Definitely something I can endorse.

 

God exists! I saw him in a motel room right after I smoked my last hit of crack. He told me to stop smoking crack and to get a respectable job. So I quit crack, got a job and now I'm doing much better.

Thanks god!

:2thumbsup:

 

God exists and I can prove it.

Everything comes from something, right? so if you just find the creator of the creation you can keep going back further and further. when you can't go back anymore you have found the one thing that has always been. You have now found God.

Idk what God is but I know that it exists and we connect to it with our spirit which we all have, it's what guides us. There's no point in thinking about it too much imo

 

I'm confused. Isn't it good to be self aware? not to be confused with being self conscience. I believe that when you strengthen your soul the rest of these things just don't bother you, they're not a part of you.

 

Coming to the point that you've reached will take a bit longer for some. Very little of what most see as part of them is actually that... even our bodies are borrowed from the earth and not really ours in the ultimate sense. Worries, troubles, stresses and the like should be even less a part of us. Actually achieving that takes a fuck-load of deprogramming for a few. Our culture and educational system does everything it can to focus people on what is ultimately meaningless.

I believe that to the very last person, we lack the ability to comprehend who or what God really is. That capacity has been left out. I would postulate that there's reasoning behind that.

 

I hope your joking... prove it? lol if someone could do that this thread would be closed. Life itself would be meaningless monotony.
No, the argument of cosmological origin does not prove the existence of God. See the million google pages on cosmological argument for God. Who created God? Your idea is simple, im sure, that God gets a sort of outside the theory/transcendant of the rule exemption.
That said, I think the word universe substituted works. Or space itself. Or something unknown.... indescribable, unnamed

What I think is similar to stinkfoot, when you say "power in your God's name" it literally is that- fascist method of control of the masses. Power in the lingustic word that has inherent meaning to force submission.

Linguistically God is just a word, created by man. NOT an entity, not a being, nothing known. A better argument would be for the universe to be supreme, or something unknown, unnamed, and indescribable.

 

the word God without mythological or cultural linguistic association means nothing.

 

What if you don't want to enter heaven? Does he instantly send you to hell? Do you show up to the gates and see a sign that says "Heaven - Est. 0"

"Welcome to heaven my son, you have been good and true. I grant you entrance to my kingdom of eternal happiness and pleasure."

"Can I just stand out here with my guitar and wait for my friends"?