Can God make a rock so big that even He can't move it? If He is God then He can create anything, but if He is God then He is strong enough to move anything. Thoughts?
Methinks God Needs To Enrol In A "Responsible Use Of Explosives" Course, Then Get Himself A Big Box Of Dynamite.... Problem Solved...........................:2thumbsup: Cheers Glen.
If God is everywhere or infinite, that means He's the biggest thing in existence. So, in order for him to make a rock so big even He couldn't move it, the rock would have to be bigger than everything that exists,......and a rock by definition is not an object of infinite size, so one bigger than everything in existence is just illogical. Being the omnipotent being that He is though, He could create such a thing and not be able to move it, and move it both at the same time.
If god is a 'HE' that would imply gender. What use "he" would have for genitals is beyond imagination,not to mention the size of those babies!
A God would not be abound to human logic, so this scenario would hardly be comprehensible to such a being. Imagine a fly telling you how good shit smells, of course flies don't have vocal cords or know english.
Why would God have to move it with physical strength? Since God most likely isn't a physical being the only purpose it would do this is to prove this mindfuck. So, God would not have any problem with moving a rock of whatever proportion.
It's possible that god could make a rock ''so big that even he can't move it'', but this would only be by default, because the rock would be so big that it would be infinite, and therefore occupy ALL space, so technically there would be nowhere to move it. errr... i mean.... this thread is super lame... and did you inspire yourself from the simpsons where homer is stoned and asks otto if god could microwave a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it? I mean.... c'mon, you can do better than that!
The problem is that if you say God wouldn't have any problem creating and moving a rock of whatever proportion, than you have just proved that God doesn't exist as the almighty being that He claims to be. If you say the opposite, than you have proved the same thing. That's what the OP's question is really trying to do,...disprove the existence of God through a logical paradox.
if a god was real,don't ye think he'd have shown up somewhere by now?5000yrs is a hell of a long time.aah well,maybe he's just busy makin' rocks somewhere.ha! ha!
I understand when people want God to prove it's existence but is it so unbelievable that if there is a god he does not feel any need to do that? And that 5000 years may not be a long time for a god?
And also, if god, or our ''creator'' exists, I strongly doubt that he would be the santa claus god that most people make him out to be.
i don't think that it's people wantin' a god ta prove it's existence.well i don't know, maybe some people do.but i think it is unbelievable!,that a supposedly loving,caring and compassionate god don't feel the need ta do that!if only just ta bring hope to those who need it.an 5000yrs might'nt be nothin' to a god,but it's a very long time to humans.
Exactly. We have invented this compassionate God and expect it to care about us in a human-like way. I think the creator could have finished His job already with what he has done so far. Isn't all that we are living in a pretty amazing gift? Or yeah, it could be we are in His dream and he doesn't love us in a conscious way at all. We just want more, asking questions and wanting prove (nothing wrong with that in general of course, on the contrary). If you want someone to care about you in a showable or physical way go find it among your fellow creatures I'd say. It's the best way to experience some kind of love of the creator if you ask me :2thumbsup: Just saying, we don't need his personal attention or physical prove of Gods existence.
lets say god were to try to experiment with this paradox. it may be assumed that he can move the biggest thing which now exists, so in order to do the experiment, he would need to make a more massive rock, and then test. if that rock doesn't do it, make a bigger one, repeat. each successive trial would demonstrate his or her ability to move the rock. However, at the point where the number of trials becomes infinite, which is unattainable, it would require an infinite amount of force to move it. therefore, since we now have a value for m/f of infinity/infinity, the expression evaluates to the entire set of real numbers. the moral of the story is that human inquiry becomes meaningless when one is dealing with infinities.
:2thumbsup: I say no matter how big the rock, there's always a determined chisel ready to chip, chip, chip away!
