Can anyone describe what flashbacks are? I just had this really really strange feeling of deja vu, I can't begin to explain. Like a sort of, it's like this feeling I can't describe really remeniscent of powerful trips I've had where I've had a not necearilly pleasant time. Forgive my spelling I don't feel too well to be honest.
Here's a good source, but focuses on HPPD which is different. http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/health/hppd/hppd_faq.shtml http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/health/hppd/hppd_article1.shtml I've never had one, but do have deja vu. I find that way interesting and nearly always stop to try to anaylise it when it happens. Often I find it feels like a jumbled waking dream, the subconscious leaking out and resolving something. I wouldn't be concerned about it tbh Cheeze.
Yeah, I've read about 'free trips' but I've never heard about anyone actually having one. Here's what Sasha Shulgin has to say about it. http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/lsdflashbacks.htm There are reports of PTSD-esque symptoms after bad trips. I myself have symptoms of a panic disorder that started after a mildly bad trip (though I cannot say LSD caused anything). I can't stand the way it looks outside sometimes because it reminds me of the weather while I had the bad trip. I'm still trying to sort that out.
It was when I was really stoned last night, this feeling of deja vu would come from sort of threads of thought I had had whilst tripping. But these thoughts were always in the trip part of the some loop, and it seemed in the trip that everything I did was - this sounds crazy, but looking to try and distract myself from what was truly going on in front of me. It was only when I focused on this 'true' thing that I could move on, everything else was a a distraction. In order to focus on this 'true' thing would be to almost cross your eyes or close them, so that I was almost viewing one single plane. The really weird part is that, things I was seeing, when tripping and last night when this flashback/panic attack whatever it was occured, everything was almost.. like every scene in front of me was like it fit into the deja vu. Like when I said extreme deva vu, I meant almost that it was this feeling where everything seemed uncomfortably and eerily familiar and reminded me of that trip. I really am at pain to try and explain what happened last night, let alone whilst I have tripped before. last night though when I would close my eyes I was getting body tremors, maybe just shaking. It was uncomfortable to say the least. And probably brought about by smoking a shedload of whatever the green residue was in my grinder, a mix between lil bits of good weed and seemingly loadsa spray from one eighth a bit back. I really do think I may never trip again. As much as it was fun it seems like I'm dabbling in something I shouldn't be to be honest and this deva vu thing, just makes me sound mad.
It sounds like you got really stoned dude. Pot is the best at giving psychotic symptoms like that . . . your mind was probably just on a bad trip you had and you were really high and wham, all kinds of weird body sensations and deja vu . . . doesn't mean you're going crazy. i'd lay off the pot more than i'd lay off the psyches, as long as psyches are done at reasonable intervals.
Ah I'm laying off the pot as it is, think twas just that stuff whatever was sprayed on that bud it did serve to give it more of a 'kick', if you can call it that it was horrible. I'll trip if the right opportunity presents itself but I don't think I'ma buy em ever again, just mooch off others.. think it's their turn!
Yeah it sounds like you just got really stoned. I sometimes get body tremors when stoned, especially if it's really cold out or something, and thinking about it just makes them more intense. I sometimes get these weird deja vu feelings that feel almost like they're plucked straight out of dreams or trips.. It's a weird feeling but it usually passes. Sometimes I'm also reminded of a feeling I've gotten during a trip and it really just reminds me of the rest of a specific trip, and almost brings me "back" to that trip in a way. That's the closest I've ever been to any sort of flashback.
It was like a deja vu I've felt when tripping where infinite numbers of memories are recalled which invoked that very same feeling as if it were the very essence of remembrance I was dealing with. I've never felt like that from being stoned before in my life, it felt almost like a waking dream.
I've had a full blown flashback while really high. It didnt last long but was one of the most intense moments I have ever had. Flashbacks are real, but in my experience they usually occur when someone is really high after having tripped recently and something happens that pulls the person into a trip. For me it was a scene in the movie, the Fountain, that set it off.
I have "visual" flashbacks, but they are nothing like what anti-drug propaganda would like to lead you believe. Prior to psychedelics I had never experienced any of the visual phenomena they had to offer, even on other hallucinogenic drugs like dissociatives and deliriants. However since my experiences the visuals have made themselves present in other areas of my life. The most common is for visuals to appear when I undergo other sorts of high. For example after an intense orgasm it isn't unusual for fractals to completely encompass my entire vision for a good 30 seconds. I also sometimes get waving and distorting visuals when taking other drugs. I've even had some visuals when plain sober but they usually last for a couple of seconds and then disappear. I suppose this could be classed as HPPD though, I'm not really sure. It doesn't affect me in any way good or bad though, I've just got used to it as if it was always there. The hallucinations are fairly rare, aside from after orgasm - but those ones are quite welcome
I've totally been there! I'm certain that it was merely a 'bad high' like the others say, since what you describe is almost identical to what I have experienced. The best way for me to explain to you what I think happened is to read about derealization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derealization Allow me to pick some quotes for you: "Cannabis, psychedelics, dissociatives, antidepressants, caffeine, nitrous oxide, and nicotine can all produce feelings resembling derealization, particularly when taken in excess." "Feelings of déjà vu or jamais vu are common. Familiar places may look alien, bizarre, and surreal." "Because degree of familiarity is itself among one's sensory and psychological data when experiencing a place, the process of derealization, by blocking identification with one's surroundings, itself contributes to the difference between one's perception of one's surroundings under derealization and what one's perception would be in the absence of derealization. For this reason, the more familiar a place normally seems, the more unfamiliar it seems when a person is experiencing derealization." "Those who experience this phenomenon may feel concern over the cause of their derealization. It is often difficult to accept that such a disturbing symptom is simply a result of anxiety, and the individual may often think that the cause must be something more serious. This can, in turn, cause more anxiety and worsen the derealization." Derealization combined with being extremely high can really be a horrible experience, since anxiety is tough to deal with in general with weed. Cheer up and just go easy on the weed next time. You'll be alright. :sunny:
I think I know what you mean. The first few times I tried 4-aco-dmt, I would look at things around me and get an unexplainable sense of familiarity. I have actually mentioned this on here in a few posts... maybe last summer. This happened while I was sober and also started to happen during trips. It actually made me quite frustrated during one trip and I really have no clue why.
It's like a sense of I've been here before, done this exact same thing felt this same way, even if not in the same physical location. As if i've been there before, will be there again. I also got this weird feeling of deja vu with just getting something to distract myself, like I reached for a glass of water, better have this water to stop thinking about this odd feeling, better do x better do y. Like I was distracting myself from something I should've been realising and maybe being? I've had this exact feeling on bad trips/intense trips.
Possibly depersonalisation or derealisation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derealization After a rather intense experience my 4th ever time smoking weed (Which matches up almost identically with the experience you described) I spent a week or two in a rather dissociated state. I felt like I lost touch with reality, like part of my brain had been damaged, or something was wrong. I kept getting moments where I felt like I was undergoing the negative experience, I had an intense sense of deja vu about EVERYTHING, every moment felt dream like and there were moments when I considered that maybe I was dead and trapped in an eternal dream. It all wore off after a week or two
