a commune is it the better way to escape the system?

Discussion in 'Communal Living' started by pattymary, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. pattymary

    pattymary Member

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    big question: a commune is it until now the better way to escape the system and have more freedom ?is it a place where we can have a better control on our life? i mean a commune goes with some land you can farm for food so in that case it is not a city thing!how far can we escape and recreate our life in a communal structure and how important is it for the future of the planet?are there people that are living it and can answer or others that have reflexions about it?
     
  2. Montreal-Mark

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    Yes
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    you can go very far and yes it is important
    Lived it and would go back in a second.
    But the problems most communes encounter is 1) Lazy people 2) People with bagage 3) Weird people with no clue about life 4) The outside world trying to see what they're doing in the commune
     
  3. indydude

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    A commune is sharing experiences and resources with others. Each of us doesnt have to buy their 'own' things like a truck, a shovel, a tractor. Think of it like this a small subdivision each family has their own real estate tax, electric bill and tax, water bill and tax, and then they each have things for the house like mower, snow ploy, tiller, pool, garden, car, bike, etc. And all these break and need repairs. A commune is like a co-op people pay a little to enjoy a lot of things. It frees us from having to work so much to pay for so much. Farmers figured this out long ago with co-ops.

    The thing is local, state, fed. govts need all these little individual taxes and fee's that go with the nuclear family and subdivisions. Many car registrations pay much more then a few families sharing the same vehicles. Families with one real estate tax is a lot smaller then each paying their own tax. So, zoning and other obstacles are legislated to keep people from pooling resources and communing. We have been engineered to live like we do and be ultra consumers paying into the govt. coffers.
     
  4. pattymary

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    indydude you put words on a reality i was guessing but could not define..thank you for the comment very intelligent!
     
  5. pattymary

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    so what happens when john puts himself on the list to use the car on wednesday and gilbert did not bring back the car on wednesday morning as it was planned?what happens when jack broke my drill and does not have the money to fix it and i need it today to do a little job outside? how to deal with things like this?
     
  6. indydude

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    Greetings pattymary! Good questions and ones that most people have when thinking about commune's. One answer (there's never just one answer to a problem) is having multiple items, vehicles with scheduling and responsible mates. I tend to think problems work themselves out with those who value cooperation, tolerance, experience.
    Communes are a very serious subject for me that are becoming a serious alternative lifestyle as the world as we knew it changes each day. I believe people need to prepare and get educated on IC's. I'm sharing info from my experience and passing on info from people I've posted with who have more knowledge and experiences then I. My hope is that more people will become aware that they dont have only a few choices about how to live life. WE don't have to be homeless or work 3 part-time minimum wage jobs for a crummy apartment. WE can lead good quality lives w/out slaving and thinking we need every material object and new gadget that is on TV. I hope to re-educate myself, family and others to not be afraid to think outside the box and try new ways.
     
  7. pattymary

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    so what is the best part of the world to start a commune? a developing country or a western style society? your way of thinking about communes is very sharp.. i have spent 3 months in findhorn in my young days and lived in several communes and believe me it needs very responsible people to make a commune work.. i am not living in a commune but getting older and facing the world the way it is evolving i am going back to my previous ways of thinking .. but this is not an easy thing..produce a lot of our food is important and every self help ability is important.. but what to do in a country where you have all sorts of taxes and regulations in the way.. and also when you live in a commune you must find a way to make money cause yes we will always need money you see the internet have to be paid for so that we can have access to this forum.. i am seriously reconsiderating the commune as my final living environment but it is just a speculation and that s why this part of the forum is very educative for me it will help me to mature my thoughts! thanks for the answers!
     
  8. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    I'm cool with taking myself out of society, but I've heard a few stories about communes. Its not unheard of for people to full on share their significant other sexually with the other people in the camp.

    I'm definitely not okay with something like that. Everything else seems amazing though.
     
  9. Meliai

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    My ultimate goal with the commune I hope to start with my friends one day is to be completely self-sufficient and off the grid. I don't like American culture, I don't like the government, and I want out of the system completely.

    The biggest problem I've encountered with this plan is property taxes. A commune can become self-sufficient to the point where no taxable income needs to be brought in, a commune can live off the grid completely in terms of electricity and power supply, but in America its damn near impossible to avoid paying property taxes.
     
  10. pattymary

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    that s why i tell you it is maybe simplier to set it up in a country where taxes do not stop you from sleeping.. for the promiscuity i am definitely not for living in the same house i rather believe in eco villages and everybody in his house.. there are too much problems when too much people live in one house.. i think the key of a successful commune is how to rule closeness and distance and who you accept in it!to me the choice must be drastically made!cause no time too loose with the erratic behaviours!
     
  11. indydude

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    Could that be a myth or propaganda from the freak's we're always reading about and seeing on TV in religious cults? I've been acquainted with a few communities and they dont share and most are partnered up from what I've seen.
     
  12. I am Rooney

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    if i wanted to join your commune would you have a place where i could set up my xbox 360 and also my internet connection so i could play online as well?
     
  13. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    Like I said, if it is a myth...I'm happy to be part of the commune.
     
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