What is Holding Scientists Back For Curing AIDS?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Blind Kaleidoscope, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. Blind Kaleidoscope

    Blind Kaleidoscope Guest

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    Have scientists isolated what they are lacking to cure AIDS? Do we need better microscopes, different chemicals to mix, change in the disease, or to simplify it, lack of technology?
    I am clearly not a scientist or know a lot about diseases, I am just curious.

    Not to be all conspiracy theorist crazy guy but:
    Could they have already "cured" it, and they are getting some extra cash from donations?

    Here is an example of what I'm thinking:
    If someone were to give you $1,000 a week to finish (Cure) a book (AIDS). But when you complete it, the money will stop coming in. As long as you never finish the book even if you die, you will get the money.

    Would you ever finish that book?
     
  2. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    every second AIDS video on youtube is about the truth behind AIDS, at lesat in my country
     
  3. lillallyloukins

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    sadly, it's all about da moniez :(
     
  4. Meliai

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    I read a meticulously researched book that postulates that the symptoms of full-blown AIDS are not caused by the HIV virus but by the medication they give people that are HIV positive. I haven't decided if its true or not, but its a fascinating read.

    [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Inventing-AIDS-Virus-Peter-Duesberg/dp/0895263998
     
  5. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    AZT killes those people, the rest is side effects from vaccinations and other
     
  6. Meliai

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    The AZT theory makes sense when you think that HIV-positive patients that take newer medicine and do not take AZT can live 20+ years without a single symptom of AIDS.

    AZT is a wicked drug. Even if AIDS is real, it makes little sense to me to feed toxic medicine to people with an already weakened immune system.
     
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    thanks... that's interesting... so, they not only making shit loads of money, but get to decrease the population too... makes sense...
     
  8. midgardsun

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    thats terrible, like the poor people who got cancer and eat toxic chemicals as a treatment
     
  9. wiccan_witch

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    My step father has believed for years that AIDS is used as a method of population control particulary in third world countries where there is limited knowledge and access to contraceptives and information about safe sex.
     
  10. midgardsun

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    they get mass vaccinations from big pharma and then their immune system is screwed
     
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    ^^^ The Constant Gardener is all about that... Hollywood.... hidden in plain sight...
     
  12. Voice of Truth

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    You can't cure a syndrome. And if you don't know what a syndrome is, might I suggest you do a search and educate yourself.
     
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    Why is Stephen Hawkings still in a wheeled chair?? And just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie roll pop.??

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  14. Dressed_In_Sound

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    This. I believe it's the same reason why cancer hasn't been cured. More money is made off treating it rather than curing it.
     
  15. FritzDaKatx2

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    He's a slacker and 3. :cheers2:
     
  16. Achre

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    New here ;)

    Believe it or not, you can't buy scientific discoveries for money, but only increase the probability of something being discovered.
    The tricky part with HIV is that it is a retrovirus, which modifies human DNA to replicate itself.
    The problem lies in engineering an agent that would identify modified cells and destroy them selectively. It's also highly mutative and that makes things even harder, because there are lots and lots of variations.
    Scientists simply don't know how to do it.

    If you are paranoid and absolutely want to blame someone, blame the catholic church for banning the use of condoms for so long.
     
  17. Meliai

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    Inventing the AIDS Virus, the book I referenced earlier, theorizes that its a completely harmless retrovirus that has been around for years before it was identified as the cause of AIDS.
     
  18. NoxiousGas

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    AIDS as a means of population control is pretty far out there in terms of bring ludicrous, it takes WAAAAYYYY too long to kill.

    It's a virus, plain and simple, and as Achre pointed out, virus's mutant very quickly and very often. Why do you think every few years there is a new strain of influenza around?
    Not because it's all part of some NWO plot to decimate the population, but because that's how a virus works.

    Same with all the bullspit about immunizations, they are not part of some master plan by Simon BarSinister to take over the world. The over usage of anti-bacterial agents is far more dangerous and potentially deadly than immunizations are.

    Maybe some of you that are so certain that immunizations are some secret means of population control should visit some parts of the world where things like whooping cough, polio, or any of the numerous other pathogens still pop up and tell that 4 year old who is dieing from coughing constantly that he didn't get the vaccination because Big Brother wants to take over the world and he should be thankful he didn't get his immunizations.

    Really now, some of you guys really need to stop and think about some of these "plots" you believe in.

    If I wanted to take over the world I would allow all those infectious diseases to run rampant, that would be a lot faster and more efficient at decreasing the population then what I've heard put forth in these type of conspiracy theories.

    The degree of plain ignorance and lack of logic exhibited here sometimes just leaves me completely flabbergasted.

    The only thing I do agree with in this thread is that sadly big pharma are motivated by $$$$ and not true social need. THAT is the only plot and sinister thing transpiring with AIDS research.
    Same reason why they are vehemently opposed to medical marijuana, despite the overwhelming eveidence of the myriad ailments it helps with, including cancer.
    Can't make a shit ton of money on something anyone can grow that needs no processing.
     
  19. NoxiousGas

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    That is 100% correct, but virus's MUTATE all by themselves.
    No secret plot involved or needed.
    Again as Achre stated, many virus's inject themselves into the cell of the host, mingle with the hosts DNA and use it to reproduce, often resulting in a new mutation of the virus. Like every other evolutionary mutation, some are viable and continue to survive, others are not and have a short life span.


    I wonder if all this conspiracy crap and evil plots to take over the world the result of a couple of generations of kids growing up on Marvel comics and sci-fi with super villains around every corner plotting to take over the world?
     
  20. Meliai

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    Inventing the AIDS Virus was actually written by Peter Duesberg, a world-renowned scientist on the fast track towards a Nobel Peace prize that put his career on the line in order to share with the world his theory on the HIV virus.

    The book is meticulously researched. It contains 1000 pages of documented research supporting his hypothesis.

    So no, I would say that particular theory is not the result of kids growing up on Marvel Comics.
     

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