What's the scoop? I've done some research on these and I know they are plants, etc, etc. but wanted to hear from the experts: 1) Risky to order by mail? Looks legal from my research. 2) What's the difference? Which is closer to that opiate warm blanket? (I don't want to trip -- just relax.) 3) How much do you need? What's the cost? 4) How best to ingest? I'd rather not smoke it. 5) Which do you like better and why? I know, this is a loaded question. But it looks all natural, and I'm interested in a natural alternative to pharms. Any advice would be appreciated!
I'll answer regarding kratom specifically. 1) It's legal in most of the world. Not in Australia, Thailand and a few other countries in that neighborhood (SE Asia). 2) Kratom is, in my opinion, very opiatey. 3) It varies greatly, on both counts. Shop around. 4) You're right. Don't smoke it. Make tea. 5) I've never used kanna (sceletium), but I'd like to some day. I'm a big fan of kratom - it's an incredibly effective analgesic and relaxant. Peacelove, Aldousage
Thanks for the info Aldousage. I'm definitely interested. It seems they both come in many different forms -- leaves, powders, liquids. When you made your Kratom tea, how much did you use for the effects and in what form? Since these are legal herbs, do you get them locally? What type of store? Or is it mainly an internet/mail-order thing? Sorry about all the questions. Just want to be informed. If anyone else has any input, I'd appreciate it.
It's really only online you can find this kind of stuff. Some states have headshops where you'll find them, but it's mainly online. Try getting Kratom 15x extract. The 4 grams off Iamshaman.com. Kanna is worthless. I've had Kanna powder. It might raise your mood a little, but no more so than placebo. So you never really know. I've had the 15x Kratom (just stuck 2 grams in gelcaps, like hell I'm gonna try drinking that), and I honestly don't remember the experiences. It was nothing overly impressive, but I can say with confidence that it feels like a nice hydrocodone high. Mix with weed, enjoy =)
I second that about Kanna, I got zero effects. But, everyone is different, there are experiences on erowid that differ from mine. I love kratom, its one of my favorite drugs. Believe it or not, you will come to actually enjoy the taste of the tea, but it doesnt hurt to put some honey and lemon juice in it. I remember someone saying on a different forum that it isnt cross tolerant with opiates, and I have to disagree with that. I take two grams of 15x from IAS and it gives me a good experience for three to four hours.
I just had roughly 3 grams for lunch today of the 15x from Iamshaman. Definitley good stuff, that's all I have to say about it. It's worth it without a doubt. Cheers! God Bless ~
How's the packaging from Iamshaman? Very discreet, fairly discreet, or not at all discreet -- as in "what the hell is my husband ordering in the mail with pot leaves and deadheads and hookahs on the envelope? I'd better open it!" That was my wife speaking, by the way. I don't want to get grounded. Thanks for all the help! I knew the wise ones would come through ...
For me it came yesterday as a simple baggie within a baggie, in a thin FedEx envelope used to send paperwork. Not even a box Not to mention that the people there are some of the nicest people in any business I've ever dealt with. God Bless ~
dont order a book with your kratom though, I got the Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants and twelve grams of kratom powder, and the book poked a hole in the bag. There was powder all over, but I only lost about two grams.
Kratom (less than a teaspoonful) got me twice as blasted as hydrocodone but felt very similar. The only problem was the strange and frightening aftereffects, which resembled heroin withdrawal, that lasted a month after only one usage. There's not much info on side effects out there, so just be aware that you're kinda being a guinea pig when you try things like kratom, especially when they're marketed online with no way of knowing what they may have been adulterated with. To sum it up: Kratom was one of the best highs of my life but I'll never, ever touch it again.
Yes, I agree with you. Kratom is good for health if you take it as medicine. It is more useful for relaxation, pain relief and many more. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Thanks for the info on Kratom, guys, even though I'm not OP it's good to know. I've been wanting to try kratom for quite some time, just don't have the money for it. I wish there was a site that offered samples Peace and love <3 :daisy:
Kratom is what you are looking for when it comes to analgesia. It has helped me tremendously in these days of shift and change. I got to recommend the vendor Meridean Botanicals for price quality and service, they have treated me well.
The traditionally prepared dried sceletium was often chewed as a quid after fermenting it, But kratom is really nice.
I've done doses of Kratom (Captain Kratom brand) up to 6g. When mixed with a bowl of weed it can feel pretty altered, even get somewhat visual. It is good stuff, although expensive per dose.
