HAARP - Anyone Familiar With This Technology?

So do water droplets or clouds of vapour...

 

That water at that altitude always freezes immediately to form little plates of ice that stay in the upper atmosphere for hours so you can see the snow contrails for hours in humide environments.

 

So, so would some water with, say, nano particles in it? Or even larger than nano particles...

 

depends how your solution behaves when freezing, when you spray water directly in that cold air it would still look different from hot, then freezing Co2-H20 vapor.

 

Yes it is VERY DANGEROUS and needs to be destroyed!!!!

THE WORST THING EVER CREATED!!!!!!!!

 

Thanks Dude111 ^ ...that's pretty much the way I see it....talk about watching the sky all you want. Even just a little research into this reflects how dangerous and catastrophic it can (will) be.

 

Dude lll and Lynnbrown - I completely agree with you both. I find it absolutely amazing that no one of authority has not intervened by now and put a stop to the experimentation going on at HAARP. One's common sense will tell you that it's not a good idea to conduct experiments with the layers of the Earth's atmosphere - particularly when you don't know exactly what the outcome will be; and that said, I feel as though they are putting everyone on Earth in harm's way. If there ever was a scenario that would give rise to "The Law of Unintended Consequences" rearing it's head, it's this one. What do we need to do to encourage them to stop such experimentation with the planet on which we all reside?

 

The Russians play the HAARP too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3fsl9Utd8s"]Russia threatens to use HAARP type Tsunami weapon NWO WMD PROOF - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Td--HItuoI"]Giant Tesla Coils in Russia!!! Marx Generators for testing insulators - YouTube

If you read the comments for this vid, you can see more speculation towards the connection to chemtrails:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r-ly_n8O7M"]Russian HAARP technology from 1970's/WOODPECKER - YouTube

 

I would hope it is because they dont know whats going on rather than THEY DONT CARE TO STOP IT.....

 

How can you possibly say this?

Currently, it would take thousands of years for the CO2 in our atmosphere to return to pre-20th century levels, with no wasteful pollution going on. And we still do it, and people (even on HF) argue for not controlling developing countries huge emissions, because it's totally not fair that when we developed we did stupid things too.

We're trashing the atmosphere, and when plankton and things get thrown out of balance and die, humanity will just have days left.

And you fucking worry about the kind of experiments that need to be done to find out ways of fighting this? How the FUCK can you be arguing for the sake of earth? Maybe you should try breathing the air in a large city, and then tell me that some antennas in the alaskan expanse of nothingness is going to be the end of things.

 

What the FUCK are you talking about?

Do you have any idea about the work of Nikola Tesla? If you don't, I suggest you look him up. Properly. Also the purposes and power demands of the HAARP system. Look up some of the literature and media that have been referenced in this thread.

Just because someone is opposing an extremely hazardous piece of technology does not mean that they don't care about environmental issues. I don't see what pollution has to do with any of this, that's for a different thread.

This is the way things have been going in this thread:

1) Is anyone familiar with HAARP?
2) Yes, they also seem to have some link to chemtrails.
3) Chemtrails don't exist because contrails exist!
4) Ok, ok, whatever. So anyway, here's some more stuff on HAARP
5) HAARP is terrible!
6) HaARP is not terrible because pollution happens!

Does anyone else notice the absurdity of stages 3 and 6?

 

I notice it, mustlivelife! That dude is out there - he talks just like
the government does - says a bunch of irrelevant mumbo-jumbo aimed towards the goal of diverting attention away from the issue at hand.
Ya gotta wonder about that dude - who is he; where did he come from; and why? He can't be that lame; the things he says remind me of Tricky Dickie from the Watergate scandal days.

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Watch Jesse Ventura's episode on Haarp.... QUITE GOOD!

www.conspiracytheoryjesseventura.com/flv/ctjvep01c.flv

 

Thanks, Dude111, for posting that link to Jesse Ventura's episode on
HAARP - I'm gonna go check it out right now!

One Of The Difference

 

mustlive: That's not what I said. I said that there's much more pressing issues, and people studying the atmosphere is NOT my greatest concern.

Yeah yeah yeah, tesla wanted to build a death ray and shit. I guess if the russians happen to fly one of those little "piss off the airforce" missions DIRECTLY OVER the HAARP site, we can blast their asses, but otherwise....

Tesla mostly did what EVERYBODY would love to perfect today, what with wireless energy transmission and stuff. Pity nobody did much to help him at the time, he deserved it. Pretty sure he was only interested in death rays because nobody would fund him well enough to research transmitting power for peaceful reasons.

Yes, mr. 5 posts, just who is RooRshack, and why does he come here? Dude seems like a government agent to me.

 

By all means, leave us to it. Though I agree, there are more pressing issues on the planet but really they all have the same source. Nobody really knows how pressing the atmospheric problems are but many are gravely concerned.

I don't remember anything about him wanting to build a death ray, I'll take that as sarcasm. Tesla did demonstrate "earthquake machines" in the form of oscillators, some remarkably small. This was, of course, a demonstration for peaceful energy techniques, not a new type of weapon. His groundbreaking work into many fields changed the face of electronics and with it the Earth. Tesla basically invented modern communication systems by discovering radio waves, along with his wireless energy techniques. Without him, we wouldn't have most of our modern electronics, he brought electricity to the world!

Very true. He, like most true geniuses, was rather undervalued in his time and is especially undervalued nowadays. Again you mention death rays, something I have not heard of Tesla himself engaging in. Tesla developed ways to get lots of energy for free, or as good as free, and supply people with it. One of his plans, I think involving the Wardenclyffe tower, led a head of one banking dynasties of the time to remark "If it's free, who's going to pay for it?" and withdraw funding from the project. Compare this to the crippling of modern sustainable energy projects that has only just begun to alleviate over the past four decades. The same old shit-bags robbed the world of truly benificial technology so they could keep control with oil and money.

Now, HAARP was developed from principles laid out (and mostly demonstrated) by Tesla. I have read that one of Tesla's most famous phrases is something like "I could split the world in half" which is quite unnerving when taken out of context. But, how do we know that a device like HAARP is not the kind of platform that Tesla envisioned if the task was to split the world? Could his small electro-magnetic (mechanical) earthquake machines be replicated in a larger form?

There are, of course, many good applications for HAARP. Tesla claimed his oscillators could be used to find oil under the ground. HAARP has planned to, is planning to and we can only assume has already at least tested some form of the applications of Tesla's techniques on new levels, mapping underground resources using familiar techniques but utilising the Earth's electro stream to improve efficiency in finding new resources, mainly fossil fuels. This is marvellous news for the human race but the risks have never really been considered. And the way things are, those resources will only be used as merchandise to us. HAARP's beneficial uses could go on forever, in fact solving the need to pollute the Earth for energy is one of them; but we know that it is used by the kind of people who aren't interested in beneficial uses.

I might believe some mad shit but at least I don't suspect that people are agents. I consider myself rationally radical.

 

Lol mustlivelife, I was taking about this guy, not you. He's got 5 posts and comes in and starts going on about where I came from and why.... I'd like to know where he came from, and why :mickey:

About the death ray.... I think that's most of the charge against haarp being tesla-related.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

It's under "directed energy weapon" or something. Apparently it was what he tried to resort to, to use the war to get the funding he needed for this other things. I mean, maybe he also liked the idea of creating something that powerful, but I think it was mostly for funding, it was after his other stuff got repossessed/forclosed. But nobody bought his energy weapon.

I know nothing of his oscillators, but (my) common sense would dictate they'd be rather useless off in alaska, unless you want to make the caribu and narwhals quake... At least a directed energy weapon could POSSIBLY be directed somewhere, although HAARP can only be directed strait up. But an oscillator would be directed.... to make a quake under themselves?

 

I know you were. I was just saying that I get into some discussions about some mad shit but I don't behave in a mad way by suspecting people who disagree with my views are agents. I was trying to make myself feel better.

I had no idea. Now I am scared. Bless him, almost like the Manhattan Project but only one man. A weapon so great that war was not an option seemed to be his motivation. A peace ray. I feel that if Tesla really wanted this device in existence then he would have made it so, instead he spent his time on more sensible ideas.

The analogy I was going for would be the Earth itself as the oscillator under the electro-magnetic influence of the ionosphere instigated by HAARP. You are quite wrong about HAARP only being directed straight up. Sure, that's where the initial beam goes but I mentioned earlier the electro jet (or maybe I called it electro stream), which is one example of how HAARP's energy can be transported across the world. Also, lightning should be considered. How much of lightning goes up and how much goes down? Does lightning strike singly or does it chain together in roaming discharges? The answers of questions like this can make HAARP seem like a bad idea, even if it is only for the locality.

For me, it is the fact that we have this amazing technology (we have so so much amazingly technology) and it certainly isn't serving the needs of people. If it was used fairly it could benefitting all of us, not instilling fear and speculation. Tesla was a genius and gifted the world in unimaginable ways but we have yet to bear the real fruits of his discoveries.

 

Well I suppose I can't well argue with much of that.

But I'd still be a lot more worried about HAARP if I lived in alaska, or siberia.

I can imagine creating earth movements, but I think directing them would be hard if not impossible. For one thing, even when we know the geology, predicting what we'd have to do to set off any given quake would be nearly impossible. And then doing it, and getting it right, would be nearly as impossible. Making rumbling, sure, but anything in particular?

And as far as creating various weather patterns, I think that would be easy, but it would be best done locally, instead of from alaska.

 

Yes, I'm convinced that HAARP and chemtrails are somehow connected. Chemtrails really freak the shit out of me - there are times - during all sorts of atmospheric conditions and weather - that the sky above my neck of the woods is absolutely covered with grids. I've observed 2 aircraft flying at what appears to be very similar altitudes - one gives off a persistant trail, the other doesn't. I've photographed this - so I don't buy the whole "different altitudes producing or not producing contrails. Every outdoor photograph I see before 1990, I now scrutinize the sky to see if there is anything remotely like the persistant trails I see today. I rarely see anything remotely like it. I know for sure that as a child, this wasn't happening. Yes there were contrails, but they faded within a few minutes. There was none of this hanging in the sky for hours!

I've also noted that drastic changes in weather seem to coincide with heavy chemtrail activity - usually thunderstorms and/or rain after a period of very dry weather, and during the same evening or following morning.

I talk about this a lot to people and mostly they just shrug their shoulders or dismiss me, but I will keep talking about it, because I've gotten a few people to open their eyes and notice this shit.