why are Australians so conservative when it comes to attending nude beaches

Discussion in 'Nudism, Naturism' started by nudesurfer, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. nudesurfer

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    I have been going to nude beaches in Australia for quite a while now and have also gone to beaches in europe.

    Why are there so few females and families at Australian nude beaches compared to European ones?

    Most of the beaches Ive been to in Australia are full of middle aged men and lots of strange men
     
  2. SeverineComplex

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    LOL i'm dying to know... what do the strange men do on the beaches!!!???
     
  3. freecospirit

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    Australia, UK and the US have similar attitudes. In Mainland Europe people are simply more relaxed and have been for years. The English speaking nations are slowly (very slowly) becoming more open as people experience naturism on holiday. In the UK the climate does not help, in the US and Australia that is more conducive. On many European beaches you do get mainly older couples and few families with children.
     
  4. TheGhost

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    I bet you are .... :D
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Australians in general are just too backward.
     
  6. SeverineComplex

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    I know this is a tad off topic, but do you contantly have to avoid poisonous creatures there? That would stress me out. Or is that a horrible American stereotype?
     
  7. TheGhost

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    It is.
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well in Sydney, the only thing you have to worry about are redbacks, outdoor toilets, sheds etc. Cant remember the last time I saw a funnel web spider or any kind of snake

    Bit of a surfer too and with climate change there have been more incidents of great white attacks further up the coast, but its still a one in a million thing, getting knocked out by the end of your board and drowning the bigger danger

    But I would say no more of a worry than North America, you've got your share of nasties over there, and on land we dont have anything the size of grizzly or polar bears to worry about
     
  9. walsh

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    I'm young (reasonably) and would go to a nude beach. I don't know why I don't. It doesn't really make much difference to me whether I'm wearing shorts or nothing. If i'm on a beach I'm looking at the water, the sand, the birds and not concerned with my clothing, or lack thereof.
     
  10. SeverineComplex

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    Wow see that is quite interesting- i will never forget in 3rd or 4th grade, we had this school textbook, and it had this little section on Australia, and an illustation of a small boy sitting on the floor crying, while holding his shoe upside down and shaking about 2 "poisonous spiders" out of the shoe! Oh, histrionic, propogana-riddled America!
    You are right about the Grizzlies! They are a hot mess- they get very angry at the smell of sex and you will often hear of stories where they smell sex from campers and the smell sets off a rage so uncontrollable they track the scent and kill the campers- no wonder it's probably during non mating season, poor dears!
    And the Great Whites, that is quite fascinating- I guess from what I've heard, their FAVORITE spot is off the South Cape of Africa. in 1912 there was an isolated breakout of great white attacks on one small beach in New Jersey, and it's actually the beach I go to because it's adorable and I love the fact it has such a sordid, violent past of which NO ONE is aware because, well, people are ignorant and no one even KNOWS the bloody history in 1912 where at least 10 people died within a week by Great White Shark attacks, and, while there are many hypotheses, it's never actually been explained!
    I used to study the necro and neurotoxins of all poisonous animals, and in America the best example would be our Violin Spider - a necrotoxin, and our strikingly beautiful black widow, a neurotoxin- but there is such a lack here of exotic poisonous creatures, particularly snakes, which i love most of all! Especially cobras!
    Sorry, I'm expounding... ever since I was a little girl I have had a penchant for the macabre and darker things of this world- my father was always so proud he had a daughter who despised barbies lol!
     
  11. SeverineComplex

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    Ghosty, are you an Aussie!? I didn't know that!! LOL so what DO these strange men do?! I love a great story!
    Tell us all!
     
  12. TheGhost

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    I wouldn't have the slightest idea what strange men do on a nude beach ...

    I can make an educated guess though .... :D
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Similar thing with great whites, you are not supposed to let loose with a "wetty (wetsuit) warmer" something in human urine pisses em off, even though supposedly we arent very tasty to them

    It was xmas when I was about 7 or 8, one of my uncles brought me a Barbie sailing boat, man did my Dad go off his nut. Even though I already had a few barbies and a ken. Was big on dolls and figurines not just girl ones, but also Optimus Prime and Sideswipe, Chewbacca, a 3 foot Big Bird Doll which was my favourite that I wouldnt go anywhere without, a Bert and Ernie dolls (Dad didnt click with them, this was before Bert and Ernie were outed) and a few stuffed Unicorns. Dint see that Uncle and his kids again till 13 years later after my parents split - the boat and its sail were both hot pink though, even I thought it was really gay
     
  14. TheGhost

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    Now that is a myth.
     
  15. SeverineComplex

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    LOL omg, I do remember Bert and Ernie, I did love those two- I think because Bert reminded me of my mom. My father would have had a heart attack if he had a son who was given a barbie too- he always told me the one thing that would have killed him was having a gay child...He was a republican...which is why, once I became teenager, who began to question his judgemental thinking, he just disappeared, and became a shadow...I'm 30, and we haven't had an actual conversation since I was about 10 years old...how sad.
    The irony, is I always thought it made more sense for boys to wanna "play" with Barbies, if ya know what mean- I mean I think Barbie could have a thicker ass and larger chest but seriously!!! I think alot of red blooded men would want a barbie- isn't she a precursor to the archetypal centerfold female in all the best mags like Hustler!! :)
     
  16. PeaceInTime

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    Which beaches have you been to?
    Last time i went to a nudist beach in Noosa.. which was quite some time ago, it was packed with men, women and families
     
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    Most legal nude beaches in Australia are pretty hard to get to. Why don't the councils just make every single beach clothing optional and be done with it? That would make things a lot better for the nudists.
     
  18. The Imaginary Being

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    does sex matter??

    you're a nudist not a pervert.
     
  19. nudesurfer

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    of course it matters

    families and young poeple dont go to the beach if its full of perves walking around in the dunes and 95% men


    if there was a normal mix of people then it would be more welcoming to other and more popular
     
  20. Biggles_Nude!

    Biggles_Nude! Hakuna matata.

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    ^ Good point.
    I might add though that you cannot tar all Australians with the same brush. Go to Nimbin and hang out in a communal household; chances are you'll be nude. On a recent trip around Australia (that's why I haven't been so active here on the forum!) I frequently sat down in cafés with just Speedos on. This isn't nude, but no harm in leaving something to the imagination!

    Nude beaches are very male-centric. Old guys doing nothing but walking up and down staring at nudists are an irritation. On the other hand, the occasional eye-candy athlete (guy or girl) or nude surfer happens by (triathletes are dream bods!), but families are sadly now quite uncommon. Those that I have seen have been from interstate.

    For decades I have been visiting Point Impossible nude beach near Geelong, and perverts and wankers up on the sand dunes have really, really done the damage by way of turning families and women away — additional to firing up a Councillor who described it as a "gay beach" ("Big deal!", our group hollered back; as he persisted, we had him tossed out of Council for interference in democratic processes). Yesterday I paid the the beloved nude beach a visit and found something very welcome happening: a Leading Senior Constable and a Detective rounding up and fining perves trawling the sand dunes. I had earlier left the beach after becoming aware somebody above me was eyeing me off. Arriving back at the car park, a police car and an unmarked 4WD (Detective's) made it known that the local Shire has now kicked in "reforms" at cleaning up the nude beach's pervert problem with a visible and determined Police presence, and (hopefully) in the coming summer months, this will make it more welcoming and less intimidating for everybody.

    The fine is severe. It's presently $600 for entering the sand dunes. Those pot-bellied fruitloops have absolutely no reason to go in there.
     

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