Imagine a society based on the sacraments pot and shrooms. Pot would be the general staff of life in which food, clothing, shelter, fuel, inspiration, and much much more can be derived. Shrooms would be the ultimate sacrament taken on the weekend, or that would be the idea. The rest of the week people focus on growing cannabis and making food stuff, music, sex, and other communal activities associated with cannabis. Once the weekend comes the shroomin starts. I know such a society would be nearly impossible in our modern society. Well it is possible indoors.......but a large paradise where the whole 100 acres where pot and shrooms flows like honey is unlikely without legal complications. What are your thoughts on such a society? It may work in India or Mexico; where laws are more lapse than most other places. Maybe Holland, British Columbia, and Cali as well.
Sounds like prison time, or alot of freeloaders would show up and not do anywork at all... just lay around and get high. Sadly it is too good to be true man.
I was thinking of an all natural commune, though there are many DMT-containing plants that could be grown as well (or grown out in nature). How's that? They'll just lay around and get high? I wonder how all those aboriginal societies managed to do something similar, lol. And cannabis isn't that intoxicating to begin with and people can do work while on it. That's how it is with me at least, though I know this can vary among people. Even if certain people decide to be not productive while high, they can choose not to smoke until perhaps the work load is done at night. Or if they choose, they don't have to ingest the holy herb. And of course the shrooms would be a one day a week or less communal event, and there can be a shaman-like figure that the community is in charge of managing this event. People obviously need to be well-versed in how to use cannabis for its myriad of uses. We could even make cannabis seeds as a common (but not enforced) currency. I don't think it is impossible, just difficult. In my opinion a free centralized republic where everyone is free and equal which seems to be the idea of modern technocratic government seems much more of a utopian ideal. As we can see for example; the classical liberal nation of individual freedom idealized by Jefferson is lost. USA today is a corporatist state, and is startin to show the symptoms of fascism. Indeed, none of these governments seem stable enough, and yet many people fail to see the fact that such an ideal government be much more of a fantasy. And the idea that one person can represent a whole group of people is not much different from a ruler and followers. I'de argue that such a commune is very much possible as long as the population doesn't exceed over 100.....1,000 being an upper limit. The lesser the community is in size the better, and such a commune would still prize individual rights in the form of a consensus democracy. But packing of a populations should be discouraged, the world is so big that it would be better for people to just spread out communes.
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When living a communal life, there's lots of hardwork to get done and I'd fear that there would be alot of free-loaders just there to "use" the places comforts without contributing anything. Pot is a great medicine, but it shouldn't be the sole purpose for getting community together. Just like sex shouldn't be the basis of a romantic relationship. Ideals and values should come first. Pot and psychedelics should come later.
Despite what anyone says I honestly believe a psychedelic commune would work if you had the right figure head who could get the energy flowing and things moving through people. Yes sort of like a 'religious figure head' in a sense, which may make some apprehensive, but this neither has to be religious, nor a figure head, merely the guy who holds the thing together. This is in fact the structure by which every human formation goes. Just that a psychedelic figure head would have a sort of esoteric metaphysical hold on people who follow him, beyond just your typical US president or workplace boss. But merely because one ventures out of the realm of physical where prying eyes can verify every move does not mean the thing is automatically going to fall into foul play. That thought is fueled by nothing but paranoia and fear. Naysayers seem to negate the fact that shrooms are ego-destroying chemicals. A commune that revolves around these would certainly attract many varying people but it would only take a matter a months before any individual personality gets completely demolished and essentially reprogrammed by the hive mind of the group. Which yes a bit of this notion of reprogramming might come out of the 'psychedellic figurehead', but even the figure head would be undergoing continual and constant ego loss and he would essentially be doing nothing other than allowing his mind to be re-programmed by Gaia and the love of his group. In fact I think the only way freeloaders or people who would ruin thing could manifest in such a commune is if they decided to ABSTAIN from the psychedelic rituals. And the only reason I think anyone takes a drastic apprehension to the concept of psychedelic commune is because there afraid of coming to terms with just how many unnecessary ego and personality traits they would personally lose when engrossed in such a thing. With all that I can say, if I found some people I liked enough I would no doubt be willing to lose some ego, let a bit of group hive mind reprogram my brain to live in a functional loving community where everyone exists on the same conscious wave-length.
It would end in opiates and benzos...same as it always does. Start with high ideals, then when the cold harsh realities of life come floating through the brutality of human nature comes to fore and the fucked dopermine pathways can't take it.
Honestly, I think it's a bad idea as it stands. I think weed should be the once a week thing and shrooms a once a month thing. And then at least a month every year of absolutely nothing. I know most people will disagree with me, but you need a break from that shit to clear your head. Also, I really think that your commune would need to do some things that have a greater benefit for the world. Sure, music, sex, food etc are good, but without a sense of accomplishment and working toward a greater good, it will just be a big party that will fall apart eventually.
Too much of good thing can be bad. people don't always have the best trips and further more when someone becomes burned out what do you do? kick them out? just some food for thought. Also I have been known to partake so this isn't coming from a non-user.
Wow that sounds pretty brilliant! It is a bit idealistic and a bit heavy on the drug use though. I like the suggestion of having some sort of overarching goal. This could be a general goal or something specific.
