I was far away from home, sleep deprivated and had to stay alert that's how the idea of asking random ppl for speed (doesn't matter the quality) began. I don't mind the HIGH though . I decided that i would get going this day. So i scored 1 and a 1/2 of this "taz" pill (5€ each). Forturnately (i'll tell you why), I lost the other 1/2 of it in the grass. I expected it to be meth but it don't think it is since it took so fucking long to kick in; but its an amphetamine for sure. At t+1h i got in a train and slept for, like, 3hrs. When i woke up (early in the morning) i forgot about the taz. Then in a span of 4hrs i believe, i got increasingly tired but twitchy, my eyes couldn't focus (to read). Then i got a final twitch to the whole body (like a epilepsy's spasm) that's when energy started to flow and i got wide awake and... all that fun shit. OK so it was nice to be unexpectedly very amped up, it lasted the whole day, but the euphoria wore off faster than it should. Then something not possible happened, but at the time it "looked" real, its 3 days now, but i still can't find whats was real or not in the situation. Basically i was in the train then i notice a couple (possibly married) old people, like 60 or something talk about drugs. They were british (accent). So, me very interested, listen to their conversation then the old lady showed a pile of crystals. I mean a BIG pile, like an 8ball. (Looking back on it was more like big table salt). I tried to talk them into giving me a couple z's. Now i know why people looked at me weird, i was talking to thin air. Oh and there was also this chick from the last trainstation with a crackpipe in her mouth seemingly smokin heroin, again, i 100% believed she was real. Got out of the train. Then the scariest things happens. I basically notice a narc watching me. He is the chief of an precisely programmed operation. Involving cover narc disguised as bum, people in the trainstation, a shaddy dealer (ridiculously cliché), taximen, gays and a hot chick. At first they were just looking for remains of meth in the toilets, then try to make me ask for drugs, then make me anxious because of my state, etc... All programmed (the "programmed" feeling is a clue of meth psychosis). Imagine you darkest secrets. Imagine what you did got videotaped without you knowing. Basically there was a projection for all the town to see in the trainstation, cars and people were coming and going to see the video and people talking about it... FUCKING FORTUNATELY i remembered half-way that i was on speed and i overheard that it was laced with fucking DATURA. How stupid is that? A dopaminergic mixed with a anticholinergic. The perfect psycho inducing drug. I didn't know this i would have done something stupid. The speed kept my thoughts sharps though, so i was wide awake enjoying a *real* movie revolving around me. Ironic thing, i talked with a hallucinated guy about the fact that you can smoke virtual cigarette on datura while i smoked a cig that he offered me . Well this was an experience. I love being "going" the whole day, thats why i enjoyed the speed despite the datura ruining my high. I still don't understand that some cook mix datura with speed and sell it to people that just want to get high. Not only they send unlucky clients to be mental yard, but theres no way you can use it properly (binge, crush and snort a lot, stay up for days on it). What amphetamine do you think it was? It took hours to kick in and i had only 2 chocolate bars in my stomach.
Sure it wasn't acid? lol I've seen the narcs myself, and the people with FBI written on their jackets (of course they weren't even wearing jackets).. that's about when I quit,lol. I'm too damn paranoid to be high.
the deliriant and the "amphetamine" may have been one and the same. possibly atropine (although i dont know whether or not its even that easy to extract atropine from datura). if it was datura it might have been a whole extract naturally high in atropine content. just a guess.
dosnt sound like speed or amphetimine to me, sounds more like a good pill though, maybe a strong mdma or 2c pill, cant imagine it being speedy or meth. also ive never tried meth have friends who have, but even when ive taken large amounts of speed,( just under a 1/4 ounze) within 4 hours,then i tend to get really paranoid though not quite trippping./
hey man u sure it wasnt ice in a pill u know what ice is right? well let me tell u about a story that makes me ask u this im in the military after my bootcamp and other bullshit i told my buddy to get the shit ready i had over 1,100 that i had built up and me not being able to have any while i was gone i was literally dreaming about it finding moments where i would relate what ever it was that i was doing to what i would be doing if i was geeked anyway so i came home i had 2 8balls of crystal and 1 8ball of ice i let my buddy have the meth after all i get it cheap ( 55$ a ball) but the ice it was mine i started smoking and didnt put down the pipe till it was gone i smoked an 8 ball of ice in bout 30-45 min i stayed fucked up for 3dys i seen shit i drove down the road in my underwear i got in the shower w/my clothes still on i tried cooking food w/out the oven on but about the shit i seen i was actuall seeing cops raid the apartment so i woke my buddy and his fiance up told him to hide the shit he hide it came in the living room where i was sleeping on the couch looked around cused me out for getting him nervous so i went back to bed i then again started seein shit like cops busting through the windows not only was i seeing this but i was hearing this shit too im saying maybe the pill u took was ice packed tight to fit alot in it if u havent never had ice b4 or even if u have depending on how much u took can make u see shit later y drink and drive? y not smoke and fly??!!! or get geeked and fuck it all!!!!!!!!!
baby i love the shit to bits. i'd do anything for a z. But i swear my dope was laced with a deliriant. my "high" was ruined, i just had the spedy effects and the atropine or whatever heart rate rise. I'm never going to buy these pills again. A good advice, never assume what you popped is what you think it is
to ignikot. i think its eazy to extract from datura. if you're good enough to press speed pills, you can just run a water extraction, dry teh shit, and press some dosage in pills. you know, you can get "datura stoned" but they put WAY too much datura in that. I mean, i took 1 and a half and was hallucinating my ass of, and had the dysphoric ffeeling you get from anticholerginic. Phenterthings are funs, any kind, i'm if it was even like PCP or some crap i'd enjoyed it to the fullest, but no, it was just pressed datura shit. Imagine a datura virgin on it? Some pill pressers are fucking kids. I'd do a better job then them. People would love my pills and fucking suck dick for them
I've ran Datura and Belladonna extractions; it's not too difficult. I believe the alkaloid you ingested was more likely Scopolamine. It produces almost PCP-like effects, but it is an anticholinergic, not an arylcyclohexylamine. Or else the mixed extract, though you'd likely not remember it if that. I sort of miss being tripped out on amphetamines haha.
It was probably MDPV (Monkey Dust) Most people dose ~10 -15mgs, so 1 1/2 pills could be like ~150-200 mgs? That would be way past the common dose and it's know for producing delusions and hallucinations.
Interesting story. I am pretty sure I would prefer ANY stimulant over any anticholinergic, but it is scary not knowing if they are mixed! Like you said, mixing a stimulant of unknown origin, which still is likely to be some sort of Dopamine Releasing Agent or Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitor, with Datura, a Muscarinic Acetylcholine Receptor Antagonist, is one of the nastiest combinations. You would be in a pseudo-manic state from the 'speed' especially if you don't know if your dose was in the 'high' or 'low' range, but at the same time, you would be totally disoriented and uninhibited from the anticholinergic. Unfortunately, the sedative power of the anticholinergic would not be enough to knock you out usually. Instead, a perfect storm of the mania and disinhibition and raw confusion could cause potentially dangerous activities such as killing people or disconnecting from reality and, for example, jumping in front of cars in traffic. Of course, that is the worst case scenerio, but it still sounds like you (the OP) had a scary time. Glad you made it out alive and not in trouble.
