Being a christian and gay

Discussion in 'Sanctuary' started by too_many_summers, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, it seems that way to me as well.

    Why do you think the anti-religious are so angry?
     
  2. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    I think it often comes from both sides.

    Whatever happened to civilised debate and discussion?

    On the topic however, I don't believe that it is for any one person to decide who can or can't be a Christian. People will disagree, but in the end it is not people who allow others into Heaven, so the final decision lies above.

    I wish people would focus on their lives more than on the lives of strangers.
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Number of males for every 100 females in the 15 - 64 years group

    China - 106
    India - 107

    Iran - 102
    Saudi Arabia - 127
    Yemen - 103
    UAE - 275
    Sudan - 101
    Nigeria - 104
    Mauritania - 89

    USA - 100
    Australia - 103
    UK - 103

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2018.html

    At birth expected rates should be 106 males to every 100 males, then at the 15-64 age group 1:1, which is world average

    The high figures for Saudia Arabia and UAE can be explained by the influx of foreign workers, but not really past 65. And at 103/100 in the 65+ group Saudi Arabia has the highest m/f ratio in the world - Compared to the US at 75/100 m/f post 65

    The high figures for China and India at birth are economic, cultural and suggest a certain amount of unpleasantries at birth, one child policy, sex determined abortion, female infanticide - but even out later on.

    Whereas somewhere like Saudi Arabia, influx of hidden workers hides whats really going on, but can be seen in the 65+ figures, what happens to all the gals? When in almost every other country, as nature or God intended, the men start to die off early than the gals. Suggests a certain amount of nastiness during adulthood. Getting stoned for supposed adultery, homicide, 'honour' killings or other.

    Most of those countries you listed have a far higher than average m/f ratio at 65+

    Most of those countries you listed, yes have strict laws against ( its actually sodomy not homosexuality, there's a difference, its usually only the dominant one charged), are strict islamic nations, but most importantly are countries where it sux to be female

    Now what I'm about to say will no doubt be offensive to some, but regardless of the many causes, the end effect is that:

    Hindu or Buddhist, tougher if you are concieved or born female
    Islam, tougher if you are a post pubescant female
    If you are a chic, better of being born into a Christian nation
     
  4. Cloaking Device

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    Because Christians often come across as having a sense of superiority based on their belief in an institution that has been a cancer on humanity for thousands of years

    Because of the amount of people like the poor lad who posted this thread who feel guilty about something that they didn't do because of the poisonous lies fed to him by religious people

    Or maybe just because we are bored and angry generally and people with such backward beliefs are an easy and valid target to channel it

    Lotsa stuff....
     
  5. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    That was so much considered not to be the truth in certain periods of time that people were burned at the stake for sustaining it.
     
  6. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    was that my point even??
     
  7. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    not in africa. :D
     
  8. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    your a pagan trying to battle someone christ like...
     
  9. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    whats wrong with being a pagan? everyone ta their own.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    A universal truth is true whether people agree with it or not. So your reasoning that it is not a universal truth because people didn't believe it was true doesn't in any way make it not a universal truth. [​IMG]
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Get a life. [​IMG]
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    [​IMG]
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It looks like it's time to remind people that they are in the Sanctuary forum and this forum has certain rules:
    Perhaps now would be good time for Non-Christians who are only here to be confrontational to leave and take their angry comments with them.
     
  14. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    since being gay is against the point of the bibles teachings - why allow talk of it if it is only for that of angry comments and confrontation?
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    What? :confused:
     
  16. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    no idea... go team gay!
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Are you now saying that your being incomprehensible is now a point for being a homosexual?
     
  18. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    1) It was brought up in a peacefula nd coherent manner

    2) There have been coherent and civil discussion on both sides (from what I've skimmed)

    3) This ghetto is rightfully a place in which Christians, or anyone else, can post generally in a civilized fashion and where every thread does not devolve into a debate on whether or not God exists.

    4) Because it eventually comes o someone complaining that there is a Sanctuary; it is for the benefit of both the Christians and non-Christians here. Christians can post here without the fear of having their thread hijacked into a existential debate on God, and atheists can generally avoid the Scripture quoting that is technically banned from the other forum.
     
  19. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    People don't get what OWB is trying to say. They seem to always take it the wrong way when all he's doing is replying to what he was given; He doesn't usually respond to sardonic humor with more sardonic humor instead he takes the components of what is said seriously, as is, and tries to respond to it that way.

    Also, no ones forcing anyone to believe but of course those that believe will express what they believe. I haven't seen anything confrontational from believers so far to be honest.

    This is still the Sanctuary forum and was created by Skip for a purpose. I personally don't mind my Christian faith being insulted, I actually take pride in it, but it really does turn a thread into a palooza
     
  20. dark suger

    dark suger Dripping With Sin!

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    U ever notice how certain people on hip only post when there is an argument happening some people just like to argue and lose sight of the fact that some times the issues being discussed pertain to peoples lives and that the bible also says do on to others as u would have done to you so if gays can't be together u shouldn't be able to be with who u want either
     

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