Hi, I have finally accepted that I am gay….. finally. But hate this association with pink, rainbows, femininity, floppy wrists and drag. I am completely man, I act like a man, talk like a man and look like a man. In fact the only distinguishable difference between me and any other straight guy is that I prefer men instead of women. Take a drag queen for example. I 100% absolutely agree that if that’s what you want to do, then that’s what you should be doing. And it’s fine. But I am not a drag, and yet the word for me “Gay” and Drag go hand in hand. My money is even called ‘Pink Pounds’ for god sake. Can we not forget about the bloody Gay Box??
TOTALLY get where your coming from with this...but nah i kind of think its always gonna be that way sadly Men in drag really creeps me out, I mean, me and a bunch of straight friends went out dressed as cheerleaders for a friends stag party once, which was hilarious, but when they whack on the harsh make up, get all queeny, stuff the bra it really makes me feel uncomfortable. But being gay Im told i should like it! I hate the term pink pound aswell...gag lol!
There's not really much you can do about it really. What you are talking about, is stereotypes of gay men. You mention drag queens being associated with being gay, yet the majority of transvestites are actually straight men. Yeah I know a drag queen isn't actually the same as a transvestite, but you see what I'm getting at. If you belong to a misunderstood, marginalised group of people, then you are most likely going to be stereotyped because of that. I think in general, stereotypes are very bad, and sometimes very damaging. Stereotypes just makes it easier for simple minds to make sweeping generalisations about a whole group of people, which usually arent very accurate at all. I can't remember who said it, but I remember hearing someone say that gay men have more in common with straight men, than they have with women. Which I think probably is very true. Most straight men would be loath to admit that though! Your use of the word 'box' is very significant. Stereotypes do enable the general public to put whole groups of misunderstood people, some of whom actually have very little in common, into one big box of 'weird', and be done with it. Its sadly much easier for people who don't understand something to apply a standard stereotype to it, than it is for them to edcucate themselves about said things. Especially if those things make them feel uncomfortable.
I think drag queens are cool. It takes a lot of balls to do what they do. Also, I don't see anything "creepy" about effeminate men. That's just how they are. And they are a part of the gay community. Plus they often are gifted with great wit and timing. Quentin Crisp was awesome. And one of the bravest souls to ever walk this earth. It was a very sad day when he died. --QP
Learn how to shrug with your shoulders, and move on to the next point on your own agenda. Other guys do other things. More power to them. You do your thing, and you are fine with that. When you look at it, negative stereotypes are virtually everywhere. The majority of the world population are asian. How many negative stereotypes are there about them? This only goes on to say that you do not need to be a minority to suffer from bad stereotyping. The poor and the rich alike get stereotyped, too. So, if they call your pound pink, you shrug with your shoulders, and move on. For as long as you get what you want in exchange for your pound, they can also call it "rosy pound with blue dots" for all we ought to care? KD
I am with you, I like both men and women; but prefer men. If u saw me down the street u may query my sexuality but for the way i dress or talk or act. I act like every average bloke, except in the bed room or rendevouz spot, when i'm on my knees and enjoy taking it. I don't like drag queens but admit it takes balls to do what they do. My favorite color isn't pink its black, i listen to metal not trance/techno/pop. All the stereotypes of gayness, i am not.
what the hell is pink pounds? gay and drag don't go hand in hand. only really prejudiced people think that gay guys must all be feminine. or that if two guys are in a relationship or having sex one of them must be 'the girl'. which is completely false. if two guys are together whatever they do they do it as a man and a man. or the idea some people have that guys can't be beautiful. ridiculous. men are amazingly beautiful. guys are more beautiful than any females ever.
this is why labels suck so bad. just tell people that you prefer men, rather than describe yourself as gay. prefering men may still conjure up stereotypes but i think less so than gay
i am gay, homosexual. which is the same as to say that i like men. it's not a label but a physiological fact. i already had this same argument with you on the other thread. and whether the word 'gay' conjures up any stereotypes in people's head still doesn't change the physical reality that i am a homosexual. that is unchangeable whether a person likes to be called gay or not.
everybody gets falsely stereotyped with something during their lifetime. blacks, whites, christians, atheists, soldiers, artists, etc etc. i'm gay and there exist a ton of stereotypes about gay guys out there. but when people see me in real life none of them think to describe me as being 'effeminate'. none has. as wrong as the stereotypes sometimes can be they are easily overthrown. which makes them really insignificant and a waste of your time to be afraid of them. that's why i don't get all this fuss about it. so some people think you're gay therefore you must like wearing women's clothes? who cares what they think. you know you don't wear women's clothes and that should be enough.
i don't believe the stereotype drives the majority of peoples judgments anymore almost as though people have accepted that gay people come in all different shapes and sizes. the thing that pisses me off the most is when people presume that because someone may be gay or bisexual it means they would happily hook up with any other person just for the experience of same sex intimacy. everybody has standards.
i agree with this. i rarely come across stereotyping of gays in real life. the sad part about this however is that some people who are part of a minority group are just afraid that some people will think of them in a certain way because of their minority status. and they are the ones still keeping those stereotypes alive mostly by constantly talking about said stereotypes.
