what can i do when im maxed out on pain meds and still have extreme pain?

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by ripped103, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. ripped103

    ripped103 Member

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    i already had major surgery.a cervical,thoracic lamenactomy instrumental spinal fusion.
    c3,c4,c5,c6,c7,t1,t2.plus have lower back damage.l1-l2-l3-l4-l5-s1-s2.the surgery didnt help the pain at all just stopped me from progressing any worse than i already am..
    it really sucks i cant live a normal life.im homebound disabled.the only time i leave the house is to got to a doctor.my dosages are outragious and since the surgery im not alot to get eppiderrals anymore,since my anatomy was removed.
     
  2. Ganjabeliever

    Ganjabeliever Advanced Knowledge

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    Combine with weed
     
  3. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't think acupuncture would be a good idea before diagnosis and repair,since the pain is there for a reason,but since you've been repaired--maybe you should try that. I've heard it works well.
     
  4. SpacemanSpiff

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    change doctors maybe ...there must be something out there that works...maybe theyre prescribing the wrong type
     
  5. Aerianne

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    Fentanyl Patches or Fentanyl Lollipops.
     
  6. blitz7341

    blitz7341 Banned

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    Talk to your doctor. Ask him if there is any kind of therapy or excersizes you can do to help relieve pain. Also what kind/dose of opiates are you currently taking? Cetain ones work better for different people: morphine, oxycodone, opana, dilaudid fentanyl, or a combination of two of them. Maybe ask your doctor if there is a different variety of painkiller that might suit your needs better. If all else fails i know a doctor in Houston that works miracles. I lived with horrible chronic pain in my neck for ten years, and i was too young for any doctors to be willing to script me any pain meds. After two visits to this doctor my pain was reduced by probably about 75% to a level in which its no longer debilitating. Chronic pain is horrible man i feel for you. I hope your able to find some relief. PM me if you want to talk about it more.
     
  7. creedlespeek

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    The best thing you can do is talk to your doctor and see about taking a mix of opiates, NSAIDs, and anxiety drugs, which are often taken with pain meds to enhance it. You may also respond better to another opiate. You also should strongly consider physical therapy; since you're homebound, you may be eligible for home healthcare. :)
     
  8. ripped103

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    my dosages are 2 100mcg fentanyl and 1 75mcg patches.so275mcg an hour that are changed every 48 hours.4 30mg roxis every 4 hours around the clock.thats 120mg every 3-4 hours,flexerral,10mg 3 times a day,neurontin 800mg 3 times a day.also i take 60mg of cymbalta once a day,klonopin 1mg 3 times a day,trazadone 300mg at bedtime,seroquil 75mg at bedtime and atanol once a day.
    and ive tried every mix of meds in the last 10 years.i used to take methadone instead of patches,which worked better but this doc wont prescribe it.
    and yes that 24 30mg roxis a day,720 a month..
    even with alll the meds my pain at minamum is a 5 and that rare.usually between 7-10.
    so thats my scriptsgot to go to doc.
     
  9. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Well,I broke a disc in my spine back in '72. It was operated on,but I still had plenty of pain ,left leg was weak and I thought my trade was gone. I was talked into going to a chiropractor and he had me ready to resume my roofing trade after 12 visits. Your situation sounds more serious ,since you had some vertebrae fused,so I don't know if that would be viable. I live with some pain every day, but certainly not as serious as yours and I don't take anything for it. I hate to see you live with so much pain and taking so many meds. I can't really help except that which I mentioned above. I still see a chiro when the pain gets bad enough to disable me. I hope you can find a way to lessen your pain and get off the downers.
     
  10. MrDot

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    ganjabeliever is right, smoke some weed man.
     
  11. Aerianne

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    What about a Morphine pump? I know of a lady who had one of those for back pain.
     
  12. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Opioids have no unsafe high dose limit for those tolerant to them. You can keep upping the dose indefinitely. Try taking something stronger by weight like Fentanyl. Even in my Psychopharmacology textbook, it says in bold that opioids can be raised in dose indefinitely in tolerant patients who are monitored regularly by a pain doctor.

    What med at what dose are you taking. I wouldn't even consider any dose of less than 100mg per day of Oxycodone particularly high.
     
  13. ripped103

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    i cant smoke weed i get drug tested.and the doc is scared to write me a higher dose!also i wrote down my scripts and dosage s in the reply box,im pasting it again right now.

    my dosages are 2 100mcg fentanyl and 1 75mcg patches.so275mcg an hour that are changed every 48 hours.4 30mg roxis every 4 hours around the clock.thats 120mg every 3-4 hours,flexerral,10mg 3 times a day,neurontin 800mg 3 times a day.also i take 60mg of cymbalta once a day,klonopin 1mg 3 times a day,trazadone 300mg at bedtime,seroquil 75mg at bedtime and atanol once a day.
    and ive tried every mix of meds in the last 10 years.i used to take methadone instead of patches,which worked better but this doc wont prescribe it.
    and yes that 24 30mg roxis a day,720 a month..
    even with alll the meds my pain at minamum is a 5 and that rare.usually between 7-10.
    so thats my scripts.got to go to doc.
     
  14. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Sounds like you need to find a new doctor really, or at least get a second opinion so that your current doctor isn't so 'scared' to script a higher dose. Believe me, everything I have read in pharmacology of opioids says that the NUMBER ONE priority is reducing the pain and that "apprehension" about upping the dose should NOT cloud the prescriber's judgement on the situation. If your pain is on average a 7-10, it is under-treated. Enough said there.

    I would also see a specialist in spine surgery (I mean, see the freaking best of the best) and see what other options are out there, be it novel surgeries or even things like implantable nerve stimulators, etc.

    So it boils down to getting a second or third opinion of some sort basically.
     
  15. deleted

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    You ever try a warm glass of milk?
     
  16. Ganjabeliever

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    I think opana would be the next best option.
    If i were your doctor, which i bet you wish i was... I would prescribe:
    40 mg opana 2x daily
    9:20 mg roxi every 4-6 hours
    350 mg soma every 4-6 hours
    2mg xanax every 4-6 hours
    (and if we were in california: 1 gram of honey oil vaporized throughout the day)

    :2thumbsup:
     
  17. blitz7341

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    Lol orison. That was kind of mean
     
  18. deleted

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    if he/her has no more meds. what the point in lying to them? ..

    once pain can no longer be subdued by opiates... Which by the way do not work indefinitely. Might as well give something else a try. :like healthy food groups, milk, physical therapy such as movement.

    body become dependent on drugs that dont work, you still have pain and addiction. Safer to live with the pain because sooner than later the body will cut those channels off. Where the pain dont matter anymore. Its kinda like being in shock.

    Op,, I cant even make out what you said in the first few post?

    you have no abdomen?.

    Are you paralized- bedridden / wheeled chair what?...

    If you take on them used patches off and chew it. you might find what your looking for. But again Opiates do not work forever - as someone mentioned you can keep boosting the tolerance. Before you know it. Your blood is nothing but rich opiate material and another junkie could probably get high from milking you.
    This is not good for you, whether your wheeled chair bound forever or not..
     
  19. ripped103

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    i said i hAVE no anatomy left in my neck and also t1 and t2.so i cant reCIEVE any more eppiderrals
    both my hands are basically in a fist formation,so i cant open my hands.i also fall alot thats why i walk with a cane.my knees just buckle from the nerve damage in my neck,so i fall alot.please explain to me what you dont understand? so i can explain.
    the reason im homebound disabled is if im out more than an hour my neck gets so bad.the severity of the pain is dabilitating.even with the meds at this point i need to go to the E.R! they always take me in right awsy and the doctor gives me 2-3 ccs of I.V morphine every 4 hours plus 2cc of turidal(very strong antiimflamatory)this with my reg meds usually takes the edge off.i end up in the hospital atleast once a month.thats my life and it sucks!!!
    any suggestions?
     
  20. deleted

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    no need to explain any further...

    All I can suggest I heavy doses of cannabinoids.. Cannabis. edible ones would be better. if you can.
     
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