Is the modern day hippy movement dieing or growing?

I think the whole point of this thread was about the stereotypical "hippie" movement

 

Dying. Everything is about fashion. Kids these days... man.

 

Like life ever changing and remaining the same...so does every movement of the day...to me to be a "hippy" is a life style that is as varied as fingerprints but have very similar patterns...to live in peace...allow peace to live in all...open minded to others ideas ... freedom of the soul and earthly possession, (everything is on loan), the desire to be helpful and healing to all life...to know we are part of the earth and not a separate species... we all are valuble and have full potential for love , life and the pursuit of joy!!!

 

I understand what you're saying bro, but what I'm saying is simply that sometimes bands come along that are so special that no time would ever effect the spirit of the band.

I agree it is a shame that the music scene is pretty sickening today for the most part. Things change though & tomorrow is always exciting ... Better tomorrow than yesterday.

 

I think it was soulrebel who just posted that the thread wasd about the stereotypical 'hippie' movement. If the question is, are all the tye-dyed Bob Marley, Grateful Dead t-shirt wearing, dreadie, patchy pants, pot smoking, too stoned and lazy to be anything other than peaceful 'hippies' dying off? Well, let's hope so. Who are you? that's a question for everyone here. If you answer with some label, then think again. I know who we try to be when we identify with the hippie label, and the irony is, the more we try to identify with a label, the further away we get from our goal.
I used to be all long haired, shaggy bearded, patchy pants, etc, but I lost all that. Not being high holy, but I needed my "freak flags" to feel that i would be recognized by family and recognized family by the dreads and beards and clothes, etc, but we learn to see the more subtle signs of family. I love the Dead, but wish they'd stopped touring when Jerry died. that's not my family. That is a diseased scene. I meet family everywhere, not just at hippie shows.

 

I believe the original question in this thread was "is the modern day hippy movement dying or growing?". Well what do you think is the "stereotypical hippie movement"? Personally, I'm not a big fan of stereotypes but I do like the ideas behind the original hippy movement. And as much as I like going to shows, occasionally dabbling in psychedelics, and wearing certain "hippy styles", this is not all I do or who I am and would hate to be identified by that. I feel that alot of that "stereotypical hippie movement" may be just alot of posing but then again I don't like to assume about everyone just based on their appearances or whether I see them at a Dead or Phish show. It's interesting to see how people feel on this issue, I mean how does anyone really know? I do respect and value everyone's opinion on the matter, seeing as how we are all free to express our views.

 

P.S. (because I forgot to add this on my last post and this actually has nothing to do with what the thread is about, but isn't the freedom to change the subject great?)

This actually goes out to Midnight Sun...I love your Alex Gray sig. He is soo awesome.

 

There has been a resurgence in the counterculture in reaction to Bush and his policies. I don't know how many of these people in the counterculture would consider themselves hippies, though some certainly would.


At present I wouldn't say the hippie movement is either dying or growing. In spite of our efforts (the Republican Convention was the most heavily protested convention in history!) Dubya got re-elected, so the movement is currently regrouping. In a little while we'll be back, unless he manages to bring peace and stability to the Middle East, the economy recovers completely, and pigs fly.

 

You forgot one...
Hell's gotta freeze over as well.

 

this kind of discussion makes me feel all sad and grey.. i don't even want to question or think about hippies fading off into oblivion...

 

We wont.
Never will happen.
Hippies are born, not made.

 

No, it's something to be happy about. The values and beliefs that lie at the heart of what many would consider the 'hippie movement' will always be around. I think by modern hippie movement the originator of this thread meant the 'movement' which is more fashion and music oriented than anything else.

 

Like that quote I've heard so many times...you can hang up a poster of Che, you can wear dashikis and tie dye, you can smoke 10 grams a day, but you're not a hippie until you change internally. Hippies aren't limited to the 60s, though. There can be real hippies today, ones that care and are politically active and do just as much today. There's just less of them today...

 

well you must not forget the ones that are still in hiding for their familys or are just to affraid to come out and live it

 

Hippie movement? What movement?

Ohh... you mean the one in the 60s...

sure, it already died, 30 odd years ago.

 

hippy is internal & is very real 60's, today, and I would think as long as human beings exist. how common? I couldn't say

yet so many people that seem to understand this go on to share views usually falling along the lynes of the stereotypers & posers dressed in tie-dye & pathchwork, listening to the Dead and Marley. why is it said in such a way that a person would not be able to do these things without being a poser? Id think those who say these things are as sick & repressive as anyone.

there have always been these posers and i would guess always will be in EVERY SINGLE community/group/whatever. why is it that hippy posers are so sure to classified by many simply because their fashion & music?

 

I think it is growing. But many issues have been raised in this thread that need to be addressed. First, it is impossiable to know for sure, that is why so many people have turned to visiable displays of hippiedom, like hip fassion and festivals. I tend to agree that these are the best ways to be able to measure the numbers of hippies even though there are lots of problems with this. There are indeed lots of "poser" hippies that are really just dope fiends. But we cannot treat these people harshly or judge them, because they are the closest to conversion, we must nurture these people and show them that there is more to being a hippie than just drugs, clothes and music. There are also plenty of hip people who do not wear all the tye dye, patchwork regelia and have short hair, these people are excluded from the count. So, the question is, are there more posers, or hippies in hiding?

 

hippy is nothing more then a label... kinda like cans at the store... i dont label myself but others label me as a hippy... i dont think there is such thing as a fake hippy... if you wana call yourself a hippy. then i will do the same and call you one.... if i want to call you a hippy... you can go with it, or against it....
i have seen my share of posers tho so i can relate to what you are saying

 

i thought i posted already but i looked back, and it didnt show up.
i think you're right. alot of kids are mainly into being a "hippie" for the drugs, and that's it. they dont care about the environment, or anything like that. the movement is dying a little, but mainly growing. at least i think and hope it is