Introduction, 3 Trip Reports, and a Vial

Hello, I thought it'd be nice to introduce myself in a more specific way since the reason why I joined HipForums was because of you Lucy lovers; all you experienced and slightly curious persons alike. So here's a little bit about myself:

I'm 20 years old, I attend college in Florida where apparently LSD is quite readily available. In other words, the saying that "Lucy finds you" doesn't necessarily apply as the more determined you are to find it, in a responsible way of course, amazing things happen. I don't have an extensive drug history just weed/alchohol/and a couple DXM trips throughout HS and 3 LSD trips during my first year of college spaced out each time by roughly two-three months. Two of the three times I dropped it was a full dose of 2 or 3 hits of moderate strength and one low dose experience.

To briefly (<---lol) touch on those three trips:

1) I had traveled to Tampa to experience the extraordinary strip clubs for a friend's bachelor party and on the drive back home decided to partake in an acid session with 3 other people, all first timers as well although one was experienced with shrooms. Took two tabs at 11pm, hit me at 12:30pm and it was highly euphoric, sort of cloudy yet colorful and very bubbly visuals. I felt amazing for most of the peak until hour 4 when I smoked 3 blunts back to back. Visuals intensified (bubbly and more colorful yet) but so did my thoughts. It was then that I confronted some of my deep and hidden problems: general family dynamic, money situation, friendship, and others. Nothing major, but it was disheartening, also mentally exhausting, to fully address these subjects and to find a genuine silver lining during in each instance. I smoked some more haha which was such a BIG mistake. I was mind-fucked for the next 8 hours hearing my friends voices in my head laughing at me and dealing with the discomfort of hearing them laughing at me. Got over it, watched Inception (another mistake), talked with friends using telepathy and getting paranoid about them using inception while I'm vulnerable and tripping. The comedown was awful, I thought I'd be tripping forever (typical first timer thoughts) and I was dwelling on the slightly disturbing aspects of the trip. The trip was great until I smoked, lesson learned. That being said 3 days following feeling generally out of it, a switch turned on, I integrated what I had learned and felt amazing the weeks afterward.

2) Low dose trip of 1 average tab. Skrillex had to come to town at a popular club and decided to drop with 2 friends. It was very interesting. No visuals of course but elevated thinking. Did not smoke (yet). Went to the club and found out that dancing is very easy, but realized dancing among a crowd was weird at best. I met Skrillex (a weird looking fellow), got his autograph and headed home. I smoked with generally favorable results and played super smash bros. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. The music was made for tripping and after smoking each of the levels would appear 3 dimensional during intense battles.

3) My last trip was beautiful. I had prepared mentally, created the perfect playlist, among other things. Two cute girls decided to attend as well as my best friend. We dosed in my dorm room, everyone taking 2 and I, 3 hits. At the time I had a 50 inch Plasma hooked up to my laptop which I called the "Tripping Station." The comeup was annoying taking (for me at the time) an unprecedented 2.5 hours to hit everyone. Once it did hit, everyone looked around with wide eyes and I suggested with my eyes that we MUST go exploring campus outside. It's a very large university; a trippers dream of countless benches, tall historic buildings, picturesque architecture and landscaping work. Visuals were outstanding and indicative of the music playing on my phone while walking and the countless realizations which came to mind; which I didn't obsess over...I just briefly appreciated the beauty of whatever minuscule phenomena I found beautiful and generally focused on good vibes for the group. During this venture I told some of the funniest jokes in human history, well I was at least on a roll and a few times nearly killed both girls with laughter. Went back to the dorm after a couple hours, looked at various artwork on the Plasma tripping station also listening to music and watching the artwork "develop." Decided to watch The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, which tripped one of the girls out but in a fun optimistic way once we all comforted her. Watching one movie during a trip isn't necessarily a waste if you've already explored nature. Finally we went outside again, found a trippy concrete bench overlooking one of the campus lakes and had the deepest discussions of family history, dynamic, friendship, and pursuits of happiness as the sun rose with trippy birds playing in a sky of fractalized clouds which mostly resembled puffy white beach crabs strafing across the sky. Ahhhh-mazing experience.


4 months later here I am present day. Last week I had a dream that I was tripping, it wasn't lucid unfortunately but I decided that another trip was due. I'm living off campus now and it takes a bit more motivation to keep old friendships alive. Anyway I talked to many of the drug dealers I had been acquainted with during my first year at the University. Apparently it has been dry here for a month due to thousands of fake hits funneling through jacksonville. Not sure if there's any truth to that but considering the circumstances it's an easy excuse. Finally after a week of searching and pretty much giving up effort I hit up an old middle school best friend whom I assumed was probably still doing drugs. Boy was I right. Long story short, this friend I had not seen in 6 years is hooking me up with a vial of acid. I get to test it for free, watching the drops hit the back of whichever hand I choose to receive the doses. He lives on the beach, explained to me he is very familiar with this batch and said that 1 drop is plenty, 2 drops will have me shitting my pants so in a few days we'll see if I'll possess a vial of blissful liquid acid.:sunny:

Wish me luck. I know the wordiness of this post is excessive for a first post, but dont worry future attempts will prove to be a but more organized and to the point:2thumbsup:

 

good luck if you actually get that vial...

please be careful, since you don't have much experience. that is a lot of L for a newbie. you better gimmee...

(welcome to the forums)

 

Dropped this morning at 1:30am, saw the one drop of liquid hit the back of my right hand from the vial.

I was a little cynical at first whether or not one drop was going to be adequate. But let me tell you it was definitely the most intense visual experience I had up to date. I was introduced to what melting truly looks like, my visual field distorting completely, and if I focused on my breathing visuals would intensify even still until at one point the shadows in the rooms started to consume me while listening to Floyd. A little startling at first but they were good vibe shadows. After this we went exploring for a few hours and decided to walk 3 miles to the beach (west coast of Florida). The timing was perfect as there's nothing more beautiful during a comedown than watching the sunrise, saturated colors, and ecosystems come to live. I'd say an amazing experience considering I was in a very unfamiliar city.

I immediately purchased 100 more drops for $500 for personal stores:sunny:

Also I do respect lucy; I've seen many a friend abuse her too much. .


P.S. - during my peak I was introduced to digital mapping projections onto historic buildings. Really amazing stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjWJHEmFfPA&feature=related

 

i'm jealous. like i said before, be careful man.

you licked it off your hand right?

 

Your advice is appreciated. I have a strict biweekly tripping policy, with at least a month between trips to be more appropriate. I did this more for my friends since where we live has been quite dry.

And yes. At one point i was offered another drop and respectfully declined

 

sounds like some good potent L. have fun

 

That video looks like the one I saw in Ottawa on the parliament building, only better.
Pork, if you make it to Ottawa, check that one out.

 

I have an inquiry about 'euro acid'

When I asked about the history of where this acid was from I was told it was shipped from the dealers family and friends from Greece whom had gotten vials from Switzerland. The one drop I took was powerful but visuals lasted only about 8, although I was still tripping a bit for a few more hours. By the 14 hour mark I noticed the visuals had completely dissipated other than feeling tired and out of it.

Anyone experienced here with the Euro stuffs?

 

there's a lot of speculation that euro acid might actually be another closely related lysergamide. the euro acid i've taken seems to have a really fast come-up, short duration, and gives no pupil dilation.
this has been discussed exhaustively in another thread..."it is obvious if you're tripping?"

 

Yes, it is so very wonderful! :sunny:

Also a good sign it's LSD.

lol what? the shivas regularly last 12 hours for me and still hazy and spun for a few more after that. Sometimes the bulk of the psychedelic explosion can be shorter, but by how much? my 15 liquid australian hits was a core of 6-7 hours of real tripping, but that doesn't mean it's not LSD. Remember where we get the "8-12 hours" from! Just from a statistical aggregate of the lengths of a whole bunch of people's LSD experiences. You can be off by an hour or two, outliers exist. Some people get really frazzled for 14 hours. The causality/logic is not "if its outside 8-12hrs its not LSD", it's "if it's LSD then it's around 8-12 hours for most people sampled".

???? Please look at yourself in the mirror when you are on 3 shivas. Saucer city! :daisy: Remember that being in sunlight can cause them to constrict.

For me the biggest indication that EU stuff is LSD is the head component, the thought component. That dopamine-fueled, serotonin-painted state of holy hyper-third-eye that is so unique to LSD.

With that said I have never done LSM/LSB/etc afaik and neither has anyone to ever post on this board so really this is all speculation, it's just annoying, because I have yet to see any reason to be doubtful at all, minus "my trip was slightly different than some of my other acid trips, in ways that are completely accountable for by set, setting, and the variability of the interactions between my human body and different batches and doses of LSD".

I understand skepticism but I feel you take it too far pork; I think you would agree with me if I said that you would never be convinced you took LSD unless YOU performed a GCMS exam on it YOURSELF with your own GCMS machine that you built

 

^^i don't think i take it QUITE that far, writer. and to be more clear, i was mostly talking about the red star microdots, as i have more experience with them. i wasn't skeptical about the red shivas. the blue shivas (GANESHAS) i was only skeptical that they were weaker than the red...also that fuckin' taste! i only tried each of those once.

i'm confident that i've had LSD in the past. though if i follow my skeptical reasoning...maybe all the stuff i had before was an analogue and the euro stuff is real LSD.

i hope it's LSD. i think there's a good chance that it is, and that i'm making too much of these small differences. but i think there's a possibility that the euro stuff might be an analogue.

it has a taste - could be the ink. but i could also mean another chemical.

it has a short duration - could be genetics? (my brother thought that the stars lasted shorter than the red shivas. that could be because the shivas were stronger, or that it was his first trip, or setting. i agree)

as far as you know...

 

i wish everyone responded how you do writer - tell me i'm wrong and that it's real L. but i'm not the only one saying stuff like this. why is it such a popular opinion?

hasn't your source kinda screwed you before? sending doses that you 1/4 as strong as you expected. maybe they aren't as trustworthy as you think?

do you notice ANY difference btwn euro stuff and acid from the "western world"? have you had any that didn't come from overseas?
i assume all the stuff i had before hoffman 2010s were from this side of the globe, but what do i know?

the euro stuff is certainly stronger than all of the stuff i'd gotten before (except maybe one batch)
even if it is an analogue...it's good and strong. just not "cool" if it's being misrepresented

 

Well I only see you saying that euro stuff is not LSD, where do you see all these people saying it? If you could link me to threads I'd be interested in learning more. I remember my first post ever on this subject was after a conversation with force_of_acid where he told me that he didn't think western stuff is LSD, because it lasts shorter, isn't as mentally deep, and is more happy and carefree than EU stuff which is a lot more srs bzns (he said).

Source didn't 'screw' me, source got just as screwed, got in big trouble with many clients and now is fixing. Source is excellenté the problem with moving a lot of acid is you don't always get to sample every single batch/sheet so sometimes production errors slip through way down the chain and you find out many weeks later that people are not happy.

I have had 'local' acid once in my life, my first time, and it took 3 hours to come up. I still think it was LSD though it lasted 8-12 hours and my memory of it, though hazy, is very similar to what my latest trips are like. I don't know if that was 'western' acid though, it could have ultimately come from overseas too. I've never done or even seen WoW offered.

 

any "wow" i've had has always been pretty good, but the euro stuff is stronger

do you visit BL? that's where i've read most of it. in the "acid in america" thread under north and south american drug discussion.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/547088-Acid-in-America-2011-The-68th-Coming

here's some quotes
"The hoffmans with ohms on the back that i had about from ~2 years ago felt like they were dosed above 100ug and didnt feel very clean.

Ive also seen it mentioned that it wasnt LSD but some other ergoloid all together."


actually, fuck it, i'm not gonna post any more quotes. that thread is huge, and there are just as many people supporting that it's LSD.

i think you'll like that thread anyways. lots of discussion about shivas, hoffmans, etc etc etc and some SWEET pictures.

check out page three picture. TONS of the blue shivas, with some chunk mdma crystal (but it's brown)
AND some red stars (YUM)

 

comments like this planted the seed in my mind...

he was responding to me saying that i hope the red stars are stronger than the blue shivas

"If you didn't like the Blue Shiva's/Ganesha's(whatever with the red psychedelic), you really should try them again. 1 hit had me seeing beautiful colors patterns interchanging with each other, nice clear head space too.

The only paper hits that I've had that stand up to them, were some Perf White paper from cali last summer. I really don't know if its WoW or NoW, but it's super visual and the connection from that shit is out of the world, better than the shiva for sure. But with that said I also don't think the Shiva was LSD-25, but some lsd analogue."

another quote: same person though
"Right on Mob, hopefully the community can start to i.d the other LS(x) tabs from one another.
I could be wrong but I think most, if not all of the Euro sheets coming to America are not LSD.
i.e.
Red Shivas
Blue Shivas
Ganesha

I myself enjoy these tabs whatever they might be. Hopefully they're safe"


here's me, with my thoughts at that time
"i wish i scooped up more of the red shivas. those were THE best hits i've ever had. much better than the blues in my limited experience with each. but they both felt like L to me."

all the euro stuff does feel like LSD. i think it is LSD. i wish they didn't have that weird taste. even the dots have a taste, milder than the blotters

when i took 3 hoffmans, my friend took 2, and the girls each took one, i was the only one that noticed the bitter taste

 

You make a HUGE error in your reasoning Pork, and that is you are trying to determine the specific chemical based on subjective experience. Problem with that is LSD-25 is just about the most dose dependent, wide ranging, versatile, and unpredictable when it comes to subjective effects.

I think maybe a good portion of the differences are due to dose more than non-LSD substances. That is not to say that other substances aren't being marketed as LSD, but I doubt it is as widespread as has been said.

Too bad the DEA stopped publishing "Microgram" where they listed the results of testing street samples. Would be interesting to see what they are getting now.

 

dude, you think i don't know that? don't patronize me.

 

not trying to be patronizing, it's just that you haven't had as much experience with different doses/weights of LSD, and often different doses can feel like different substances, even of the same batch.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend.

 

i do have a decent amount of experience with LSD though. maybe 30-40 trips on...like 12 different batches.

 

Thanks for the link pork, I read through those threads and threads linked within them. Fascinating discussion, and you're right, there appears to be about equal amount of people saying yes and no. It certainly made me think, reading the persuasive arguments of those arguing that most of it is LS?. It also made me realize, if the shivas/ganesh/etc are not LSD, but rather LSP/LSB, then that really does not amount to anything for me, as what I am interested in is the effects of the shivas/ganesh/etc. If someone came and told me I'd been munching on LSB this whole time and had never actually done LSD, I would likely write a book about the wonders of LSB

So while I HOPE that what is being sold to me as "LSD" is LSD, really what I'm paying for and passionate about is the things that come about after putting that stuff into my body, and if those things that come about are manifest from LSD, or LSP, or LSB, is sort of beside the point, it's the [ergoline] psychedelic experience I'm after. It sounds like those two analogues are very, very close to LSD's effects anyways, closer than say, 2c-e and 2c-i are, or 4-ho-dmt/4-aco-dmt.

Seems like when it comes to LS? vs LSD, it's not so much arguing different flavors of iced cream, it's arguing different brands of vanilla iced cream; a much more subtle differentiation, and hence this whole uncertainty on the matter.