Steve Jobs is Dead!

No. He was a businessman, not a developer or design lead. Being able to fool people into paying more for inferior products IS his genius. He's been able to dominate whole markets with crap.

 

haha, I know. I respect him for that. I have no problem with it, he was pretty brilliant actually.

though I dont understand all the, "RIP Steve! you changed my life!" things on facebook.

I'm not mourning his death, but he was good at what he did.

 

I could care less either

I hate anything Apple, and there are a lot more people in the world that gave service to humanity without making a fuss about it or getting filthy rich.

 

RIP Steve Jobs. I am not a HUGE fan of Apple products, i have only ever bought one (ipod touch) but the itouch is fantastic and Steve Jobs did wonders for Apple as a company.

 

I completely disagree with you. Obviously, you are wrong or people wouldn't keep buying Apple products like crazy and the stock wouldn't keep going up, up, up. You are in a tiny minority of nerds that hate Apple and I guess always will.

 

There is a lot of discussion over one cancer patient, when there are alot more out there that dont get noticed for the pure reason that they didnt sell their name to consumerism. Its nice that folks think well of him but there are more important things than pouring it all into one computer salesman.

I challenge each poster on this thread to make a contribution to cancer research, unless its more about WHO than WHAT the issue is. Dont just debate, make a difference.

 

Steve Jobs and drug policy

It’s fascinating to juxtapose America’s reverence for Steve Jobs’ accomplishments and its draconian drug policy with this, from the New York Times‘ obituary of Jobs:

(Jobs) told a reporter that taking LSD was one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life. He said there were things about him that people who had not tried psychedelics — even people who knew him well, including his wife — could never understand.

Unlike many people who have enjoyed success, Jobs is not saying that he was able to succeed despite his illegal drug use; he’s saying his success is in part — in substantial part — because of those illegal drugs (he added that Bill Gates would “be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once”). These quotes (first published by a New York Times reporter) have been around for some time but have been only rarely discussed in the recent hagiographies of Jobs: a notable omission given that he himself praised those experiences as an integral part of his identity and one of the most important things he ever did. A surprisingly good Time Magazine article elaborates on this Jobs-LSD connection further: continued

LSD : Albert Hofmann's Wonder Child !
Steve Jobs, an American businessman, co-founder and CEO of Apple Inc. and former CEO of Pixar Animation Studios has never been shy about his use of psychedelics, famously calling his LSD experiences "one of the two or three most important things I have done in my life."


On his 101st birthday Albert Hofmann wrote a letter to Steve Jobs

“This Latest Generation Knows
That The Net Is Going To Transform The ’90s”
“In the 1960s and early ’70s, the first generation of hackers emerged in university computer-science departments. They transformed mainframes into virtual personal computers, using a technique called time sharing that provided widespread access to computers. Then in the late ’70s, the second generation invented and manufactured the personal computer. These nonacademic hackers were hard-core counterculture types — like Steve Jobs, a Beatle- haired hippie who had dropped out of Reed College, and Steve Wozniak, a Hewlett-Packard engineer.

HISTORY: WE OWE IT ALL TO THE HIPPIES BY STEWART BRAND
Forget antiwar protests, Woodstock, even long hair.
The real legacy of the sixties generation is the computer revolution

Newcomers to the Internet are often startled to discover themselves not so much in some soulless colony of technocrats as in a kind of cultural Brigadoon - a flowering remnant of the '60s, when hippie communalism and libertarian politics formed the roots of the modern cyberrevolution. At the time, it all seemed dangerously anarchic (and still does to many), but the counterculture's scorn for centralized authority provided the philosophical foundations of not only the leaderless Internet but also the entire personal-computer revolution.

Thank God for Hippies

 

It's like when somebody dies I just hate to dance on their grave. I'd rather raise a glass & toast to their life's accomplishments. And my own youthful opinions were random & harshly judgmental compared to my mellowed opinions later on, so yes, life chills us out a bunch. Even if you didn't like them. I had a family member die recently & he was genuinely shitty to me despite everything I did for him during the last holidays, & then two months later he croaked; so WTF. My sister was married to the assh*le & I still love her despite all the shitty guys she picked.

My Bottom Line: I've owned many Macs & PC's & there is no comparing the amount of 'maintenance' that goes into just keeping the 'operating system' OPERATING on all of the PC's I've bought/owned. On Macs, I'm just producing & it's not losing files that have to be chased down & reinstalled for no reason or requiring me to find & load some 'driver' after I chase it down on the Net. Macs were more costly but every one I've ever bought in 20 years is still working. The guy was something. Yeah, he fuckin' pirated —they all did. And yeah, so he was a Capitalist, but at least he was good at it. I mean, look at the freaking government. They all have their heads up their asses & the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. So, when people see a Dude that knows WTF he was doing, then why knock it? I mean, he wasn't a human being that just sucked up oxygen. He gave us something unique. I hope people can say that about all of us when we pass on.

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/last-american-who-knew-what-the-fuck-he-was-doing,26268/

 

The Onion
BREAKING: Panicking Apple Board Of Directors Attempt To Restart Steve Jobs

Apple Announces Plans To Release Steve Jobs 2 (Full coverage Tues 10/9c only on IFC)
Apple CEO Tim Cook announced that in 2012 the company will release the Steve Jobs 2, an updated version of the revolutionary Apple founder featuring a richer, deeper voice and a sleek new white turtleneck.


Just to show that the Onion is balanced. I'm a huge fan, didn't want them to look too much like ass kissers.

 

Ialways thought he was super evil...guess it killed him

 

RIP steve i hope your in a good place. my heart goes out to his family as well

 

Lol ...or R ip

—Anyway I'm not attempting to defend his soul here, only the benefit to humanity his invention leaves behind (which is in itself a tribute to any Man) What would they say about you or I? People's works do follow. (I don't hear his wife complaining...)

We don't REALLY know what kind of guy Leonardo Da Vinci or Ben Franklin or Nikola Tessla was; but we're generally speaking of the inventions they left behind that benefitted humanity. Yeah, the victorious historians dictate history & Spielberg can glorify Lincoln, but to some people Columbus was a rat...and Cortez the Killer...

I'm just thankful for an OS that dos-nt cachunk! stop on errors every time it boots up, misplaces or corrupts its own system files for no obvious reason; software that automatically installs without having to search all day for some obscure freaking driver...because it's written by millions of programmer wannabee's spitting out buggy beta versions of conflicting crap. Hey, files & external storage actually appears ON the desktop rather than having to figure out which drive C/D/E:/F: it's f*%$ing on... What a waste of time.

I'd rather be a race car driver than having to also BE the Pit Crew & mechanic. (I'd rather rock on the track than spending time fixing my engine) WinDOS was a good idea for 95% of the Oriface World to get on the same platform cheap; who only ran 'Word for Office & Excel Pie-graph' number crunching org chart projection Programs, office assistants & nerds who like to fix things. Job assurance to keep programmers (& virus architects) employed.

Plastic IS cheap (Intel is now making their processors) but you still get what you pay for in guts & internal components. (But Macs do have better enclosures--there's plastic & then there's plastic)

I'm not talking about that. It's the streamlined User Interface that doesn't dog the hell out of the guy who's trying to Edit Video or Produce some Music or some high end Photoshop production. I can spend all my time being productive without having to worry about crashing.

Yeah, he was unethical, but like the Pirates of Silicon Valley (and all entrepreneurs) they got their idea from somewhere. As per copyright, well you only have to alter an image 16% in order for it to be your own & the courts will uphold it. It all sprang out of DOS. But look at the Mac circa 1985-1990 compared to the clunky Windows machines of that era.

I dunno, he might be burning in Hell, (or working at an Apple factory like in that cartoon somebody did) I'm not defending his soul here, just saying that he left the Creative Population of Humankind with one heaven of an operating system that allowed them to produce with, not fix, the computer they were using. A great tool!

I give him credit because for myself as a right-brained artist, I never would have jumped onto the computer bandwagon had the Windows machine I tried been the only game in town. Because of the Mac I did... & I produces a slew of creative work as a result & was able to interest & teach others. Otherwise the left-brained counter intuitive Windows machine did not float my boat. The GUI was basically came with the Mac & catered to right-brained Creatives who just wanted to get things done with a Creative flourish & a tool that cut out the crap. Yeah later when they ported all the Apps first designed for Mac (with a few exceptions) to Windows OS then people were enjoying some of the same —once they got INTO the 'Program' (Hence Application) but there was always & remains to this day —that bothersome System with it's constant annoyance because it is STILL JUST A SHELL AROUND DOS. It's a lightweight fiberglass race car body around a clunky Model-T ford chassis & motor that's overclocked & fed Nitrous!

Apple tore down it's system more than once like when it went from 680K0 to Fat Binary & then to the Power PC & then to Classic (OS 9 & X) & finally to the linux based OS X it is now. Yeah, we had to by new software each time, and we felt the pain but they weren't satisfied without that Evolution to an absolute silent system that worked seemlessly in the background. And any catches on the way were all from 3rd party software which Windows is still rife with today because they kept the crap written by so many running by not tearing down & throwing out the antique architecture all along the way. That's my point. They both are what they are NOW. That was the journey & that is the result. You have mere superclocked emulation in Windows so they could keep the antiques as souvenirs & every bit of quaint old software thrown the way of their machine somehow running. Yeah, that was a feat, but it is what it is. Google up Rube Goldberg & check out one of his machines & you'll see my point without any more bloatware on my part.

 

Mac's OS does nothing to improve functioning of video/graphic editing software. Windows' OS does nothing to inhibit it.
Mac comes with more free software. Windows is lacking in that department, but a Windows-based system is less expensive overall.

While some of your arguments show technological intelligence, they are fairly irrelevant to the point, and other arguments are nonsensical. Steve Jobs was a businessman, he co-founded Apple. Jeff Raskin, an Apple employee was the progenitor and lead in the development of the Mac OS

 

Macs are worth the extra money in hardware & functionality. My right-brain has no regrets in buying 7 of them in my life. But I regret the 2 PC's I bought because of the cluttered WinDOS.

RIP Steve 'Insanely Great' Jobs...
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bahahaha

Mac: Did you know I could run windows too?

PC: Oh yeah? Why would you do that?

Mac: So I could play games too! So can you run Mac?

PC: Why would I do that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEL6EshOMC8"]CAN YOUR MAC DO THIS? MAC SUCKS! - YouTube

 

Windows:
You have problem - you fix it

Mac:
You have problem - you pay for it - and you still have the problem.

Of course ignoring the nearly infinite functionality of pc

 

...Anyway, this thread is to eulogize the late Steve jobs, not to wrangle about OS's. Bless him & his family.

Gates is still alive, so he still has time to get the bugs out from under the hood; but he won't cause he's a self-satisfied rich yuppie who swindled 95% of the Dilberts out there into using his rat-in-a-maze powered engine in their cardboard boxes. He's trying to repent by fixing Africa. Fix yourself Willy. Resultingly, WinDOS Ostrich brains are made up & they don't want to be confused with the facts... like Mac being the choice of Artists & stats like 'productivity' & 'ease of use'. No hangs in OSX. Put your blinders back on, so you won't see the light.

I doubt if Gate's eulogy will be anything that approaches 'Insanely Great"

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